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Mr Calendar



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PostPosted: 11:57 - 14 Aug 2007    Post subject: Quick brake banjo fitting question Reply with quote

Sorting out the brakes and need some crush washers for the banjo bolts. Are they all the same?

I know they can be copper. Honda OE are aluminium I believe. Any difference?

Just going to pop down to the local bike shop for the bits (not Honda dealer) and this thought just popped into my head. maybe a stupid question but I don't want any hassle as I'd rather prefer my brakes to work correctly.

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PostPosted: 15:08 - 14 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My HELL braided hoses came with aluminiumummummum, but copper would possibly do.
It may depend on the loading that may act on the banjo. Copper is harder so would resit twisting and slackening off. Maybe.
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I would go with the al-you-minimum. Or OEM spec.
The washers only help the sealing faces of the parts to conform to one and other. (As you are no doubt aware.)

But if you want to keep the weight down use aluminium. Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 14 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

go to a bearing or hydraulic outfit (or some other similar place that does seals) and get some 1/8th bsp doughty washers. They require far less torque to seal than copper or aluminium. If you cant get them, use copper and heat them cherry red (and let them cool down again) before you fit them. The heat will soften them and give a better result.
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 14 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzuki use Aluminium washers as well. I have loads of new ones in Genuine packs if you want some. I also do Copper ones which are a lot cheaper.

Not sure why different companies use different types.
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PostPosted: 23:37 - 14 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, another quick question.
I know the copper ones can be reused via the heating and cooling trick mentioned above.

Is there any way to reuse the aluminium ones?

Just thought I'd ask Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 15 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
Ok, another quick question.
I know the copper ones can be reused via the heating and cooling trick mentioned above.

Is there any way to reuse the aluminium ones?

Just thought I'd ask Thumbs Up


Yes, rubb some soap on and heat till the soap blackens.

The process is called anealing or normalizing (Some folk on here need that too Laughing ).

But to be honest why bother. You risk burnt fingers, fire, not getting it right and leaks and you help green up the planet.
New ones cost about 45p each or 2 quid out of Halfrauds Laughing

But if you are reeeealy stuck then re-use.
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:


But to be honest why bother. You risk burnt fingers, fire, not getting it right and leaks and you help green up the planet.
New ones cost about 45p each or 2 quid out of Halfrauds Laughing



Think I have them for 18p each
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PostPosted: 10:34 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Walloper wrote:


But to be honest why bother. You risk burnt fingers, fire, not getting it right and leaks and you help green up the planet.
New ones cost about 45p each or 2 quid out of Halfrauds Laughing



Think I have them for 18p each


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PostPosted: 14:51 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be happy to burn your fingers for money but I meant the washers.
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
I would be happy to burn your fingers for money but I meant the washers.



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