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Danny
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Biker caught at 139mph Reply with quote

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/hampshire/southampton/news/SOTON_NEWS_NEWS0.html

Another fellow biker looses his license Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Re: Biker caught at 139mph Reply with quote

Danny wrote:
Another fellow biker looses his license Rolling Eyes


His own fault TBH. There *are* 'Police Speed Check Area' signs all around there. He should have been a bit smarter than that.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is true, but I know of lots of roads where there are signs saying there are cameras/police and not once have I ever seen one.
Also in the article they want to drop the speed limit to stop people speeding, how the hell is dropping the speed limit going to help. Confused
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

He should of got longer, 6 months is a joke.

Bikers that are silly like this should never be allowed to be on the road, the limits are there for a reason.

Saw a stupid person in a car today as well, driving on the middle white line as if he was on a motorbike at 40mph overtaking all the cars that are queued up waiting for the lights to change !

Then there was a prat at a roundabout (I'd just left Danny's this afternoon), did not stop, pulled out in front of a bike and a lorry that was already on the roundabout !
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bikers that are silly like this should never be allowed to be on the road, the limits are there for a reason.



I wouldn't go this far, he didn't kill anybody!
He was going a bit over the top but we all speed, he was just unlucky (and slightly silly)

Has anyone else ever done 140 on a single carriageway? i have on a duel carriageway but a country road would be too much for my pants Smile
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have. I'm therefore a hardened criminal, so should be locked up for life Rolling Eyes

And I'd say by the time someone has died it's a bit late
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian (GPZ400R) wrote:
He should of got longer, 6 months is a joke.

Bikers that are silly like this should never be allowed to be on the road, the limits are there for a reason.
TBF just becuase there is a 'reason' behind speed limit does not mean that all are right.

E.g. the limit on most country roads is 60mph and the limit on motorways is 70. Now counrty roads are often very narrow and in a poor state of repair, they also have many sharp unmarked bends and they often have wildlife crossing the road/dead on it. Motorways are mostly straight and wide bits of road with all slip roads clearly marked/visable. Now if the gov. think that it is safe to do 60mph on country roads which contain the above hazards, surely it makes sense to allow veichles to go more than 10mph faster on motorways. Confused

Therefore, the policy on speed limits is not logical.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:

And I'd say by the time someone has died it's a bit late


Yup and that would be the person riding the bike!

So its our choice if we ride fast, we're the ones in the most danger
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian (GPZ400R) wrote:
He should of got longer, 6 months is a joke.


Why? Nobody got hurt, and he was still around 40mph down on its top speed. If that is the road I think it is (ie, the old Andover road) then it is pretty straight and not that heavily used.

Ian (GPZ400R) wrote:
Bikers that are silly like this should never be allowed to be on the road, the limits are there for a reason.


Yes, the limits are there because a minister of transport who could not drive wanted to be seen to be doing something.

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PostPosted: 18:18 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ant wrote:


So its our choice if we ride fast, we're the ones in the most danger


Yeah, but I've already been close to death a number of times in the past and have decided I want to live a little longer, so now I ride defensively all the time.
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ride depending on my mood Laughing
Makes sense to me.

Sides i'm young and stupid Cool
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian (GPZ400R) wrote:
Ant wrote:


So its our choice if we ride fast, we're the ones in the most danger


Yeah, but I've already been close to death a number of times in the past and have decided I want to live a little longer, so now I ride defensively all the time.


Fair enough, that is YOUR choice to make about YOUR life.

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PostPosted: 18:21 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart@Work wrote:
Ian (GPZ400R) wrote:
He should of got longer, 6 months is a joke.


Why? Nobody got hurt, and he was still around 40mph down on its top speed. If that is the road I think it is (ie, the old Andover road) then it is pretty straight and not that heavily used.

Ian (GPZ400R) wrote:
Bikers that are silly like this should never be allowed to be on the road, the limits are there for a reason.


Yes, the limits are there because a minister of transport who could not drive wanted to be seen to be doing something.

Keith


I got a 2 year diss and told to take my test again 15 years ago for jumping a red light just to let an ambulance go by, and all he got was 6 months ban for speeding double the limit, how fair is that, or better still how stupid was he in this case ?
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I got a 2 year diss and told to take my test again 15 years ago for jumping a red light just to let an ambulance go by


I find that very hard to believe Confused

You wouldn't get that for jumping a red light even if there wasn't an ambulance there.
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

carvell wrote:
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I got a 2 year diss and told to take my test again 15 years ago for jumping a red light just to let an ambulance go by


I find that very hard to believe Confused


Hard to believe, but true, thats why I just passed my test again.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian (GPZ400R) wrote:
I got a 2 year diss and told to take my test again 15 years ago for jumping a red light just to let an ambulance go by, and all he got was 6 months ban for speeding double the limit, how fair is that, or better still how stupid was he in this case ?


There is no way you should have got that penalty, but then I don't think speeding should be treated that severely. Without more details I am not sure, but from memory that is a fast, straight and barely used road. Personaly feeling is that the fine may be about right but not the ban.

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PostPosted: 18:33 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to point out at this point that I was going to become a paramedic and when I went for selection, the Paramedics told me that they hate it when people try to move out of the way.
Apparently its their duty to get around the cars, not the cars/bikes to get out of the way. I expect that is a commonly unknown fact. Very Happy

I do think that a ban and retest was extremely excessive for jumping a red light though. Three points max I'd have thought.

You sure there wasn't anything else involved....? Smile
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but it does help em if people pull over etc Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, thats exactly what the Paramedic was saying. He might have been just expressing his personal view but her erckoned just by pulling over people cause more problems. Maybe because a lot of the time they pull over into places which are more in the way. I don't know. He said to me that if you hear an ambulance coming you should just act normally and not try to help. nine times out of ten it makes things worse apparently. Shocked Confused

I'm just the messenger. Smile
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian (GPZ400R) wrote:
He should of got longer, 6 months is a joke.

Bikers that are silly like this should never be allowed to be on the road, the limits are there for a reason.



Just hope you don't come here...to the Isle of Man, or you'll be bitch slapped in the face and gutted...You wouldn't last here for long. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I ride to the limits I know I can.

I try to make sure that I am not endangering other people's lives. I wouldn't (have) go(ne) nearly as fast in a car, but I know on a bike I will be the one that's dead or mashed up.

Personally it's not something that bothers me, probably the only major thing that would come of my death is korn not having to pay quite so much to his hosting company Smile.

In the end though... it is /not/ speed that is the killer.
Saying that is like saying it is living that kills people.. you can't die without living and if there is no speed involved (ie two vehicles stationary) then there can not be an accident.
I do however believe that inappropriate use of high speed can cause death.
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the time I jumped the red light 15 years ago I was on the limit with points (had about 10 or 11).

Anyway, I jumped the lights and pulled over to let the ambulance pass me, on the path was two police officers walking towards me, one took a real liking to me for some reason and gave me a producer, a few weeks later I was in court and got a two year ban, I then appealed the ban and got disqualified for two years by two Judges and told to retake my motorcycle test, in other words they revoked my full licence, that hurt I can tell you.

At the time I was a dispatch rider so not only did I lose my licence, I also lost my job, at that point I gave up riding a bike, hence the reason for having to do it all again 15 years later.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Err so it wasn't the traffic light jumping that got you the ban, it was accumalation of points. Slightly different IMO.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Err so it wasn't the traffic light jumping that got you the ban, it was accumalation of points. Slightly different IMO.


If I had not jumped the lights, it would not have lead to my licence being revoked Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 06 Nov 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian (GPZ400R) wrote:
Ste wrote:
Err so it wasn't the traffic light jumping that got you the ban, it was accumalation of points. Slightly different IMO.


If I had not jumped the lights, it would not have lead to my licence being revoked Evil or Very Mad


If you hadn't racked up 10 or 11 points previously, jumping the red light wouldn't have led to your licence being revoked.
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