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metcarf
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 27 Aug 2007    Post subject: Neck braces Reply with quote

Hey there, im doing a design project on motorcycle neck braces and helmets. if you could click this link and fill out the short survey it would be most appreciated.
Thanks

https://FreeOnlineSurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=cetu5dyhbxca41o333275
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 27 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another cracking first post! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 27 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

guys, this is just something im trying to do for university, so i would appreciate it if you would help rather than put petty and angry comments on the questionaire. Thanks to all the people who are helping.
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 27 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange how this is the 2nd new user to post a link to a survey they are doing for Uni today....
Funny Arn't Uni's still on their hollies.....

Might just be better to set up a poll on here, rahter than redirect to some other service.... Never know what they may be doing.
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 27 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i filled it in anyway. Didnt ask for any personal details - just opinions. I cant see any harm in helping the guy out.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 27 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
Strange how this is the 2nd new user to post a link to a survey they are doing for Uni today....
Funny Arn't Uni's still on their hollies.....

Could be a Masters student, as they don't have holidays as we know them. Or one who needs to hand the work in in a few weeks and hasn't even started it. Or one who wants to get a head start.
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 27 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

metcarf wrote:
guys, this is just something im trying to do for university, so i would appreciate it if you would help rather than put petty and angry comments on the questionaire. Thanks to all the people who are helping.


Rushing now because you left your homework until the last week of the holidays? Teacher wont be happy. Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: 20:16 - 27 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

paivi wins the prize there! its my final year project and im just getting a head start. my friend is doing another bike related project so we thought we'd try posting here together.

some answers to your comments,

1. yes i will design it to give as much freedom of movement as possible.
2. yes i ride a bike so i know what im talking about. i ride a cbr 600f
3. i am not looking for this to be made legislation, only looking to provide us vulnerable bikers with some much needed protection.
4.i decided to do this project after sustaining a nasty neck injusy in an accident a few years back.

hope this answers a few questions.

oh, and stop giving me bad karma, i'm not doing anything wrong!
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 27 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry, that's just our Jamie...

You might want to contact NABD, as they know a thing or two about biking injuries, and might give you more insightful replies, especially for follow-up.

Also, try the Ducati Sporting Club, as some of the guys there are involved in Desmo Due racing, and unfortunately have had some bad accidents, so again, might be able to provide more input.

Good luck with your project!
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 27 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpinestars are developing a neck brace with the help of some GP riders. Apparently they have been doing so for a number of years, but have had a lot of problems making it work. The A'star guy i saw interviewed on Eurosport during one of the behind the scenes type bits, said that they will be on the market in a year.
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 27 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google 'Leatt Brace'
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metcarf
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 27 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys, this is realy great help.

i have done some research already, this isnt the first, so im prety clued up about neck braces. my idea is to combine helmet and neck brace and condense the size considerably. ill keep you posted to how its going
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PostPosted: 01:50 - 28 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and finglonga, enough with the sarcastic comments. if you havent anything useful to say, don't say anything at all.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 28 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Done and yer dyslexic mate's, now gimme some karma....

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PostPosted: 12:57 - 28 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

metcarf wrote:
oh and finglonga, enough with the sarcastic comments. if you havent anything useful to say, don't say anything at all.


Ok, I take it back, most just post and you never hear from them again. Glad your sticking around, makes a pleasant change to find someone genuinely interested in safety . Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 28 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found this for you on MCN Dainese Wave V-Neck Brace but £230!! Eh?
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 28 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

BMW and KTM also have systems.

TBF most of them bar the Dainese one which looks like it may snap your head off look huge and restrict your vision because you have to twist your whole body as oppose to just your neck like you would when doing a lifesaver. Only seem really viable for off-roading.

However, good luck in making it work fellow uni boy!
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PostPosted: 08:59 - 29 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

so, here are some of my findings so far, based on 34 surveys.

58.8% of you are not interested in neckbraces
20.6% are looking to buy one
20.6% are either unaware they exist or would like to be convinced before they made a decision.

from this, its clear that there is definately something wrong with current designs. they are not appealing to most of us. whether this is due to them being geared towards racing rather than road use, or just lack of marketing i don't know yet.


29.4% have sustained a neck injury after of during a crash
38.2% have not
32.4% have not crashed

29.4% is more than substantial to merit research into neck brace advancements, however the fact that less people injure their necks than don't injure them, and less again injure them badly, means that a condensed, less full scale neck brace could both help and be satisfactory to the average biker.


a whopping 85% of you would buy one either because you would feel safer, if they werent too expensive or if they didn't restrict your movement.


again thanks for all the aditional comments, they are all realy helpful, and keep them coming! with every link posted i can learn more, and will ultimately arrive at a better solution.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 29 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

So give us some karma, we don't sit here all day reading threads and filling in surveys coz we've got nothing better to do... Shifty
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 29 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im all for protection but at £230 it would make me walk the other way and keep using with what ive all ready got im afraid.
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 29 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cost is a major factor especially when your spending up to £500 on a Helmet alone. Plus Life savers (i would imagine) would be harder and more restricted with any type of neck brace on.

Design and how comfy it would be would matter on the roads but not as much for track use. Cost wouldn't matter so much for track as chances are you are going to come off at greater speeds.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 29 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay, he gives karma too, I like him, nice report, good research, must've been a very discerning population... Rolling Eyes
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