RAF Scrambled to intercept Russian bombers.

Messy · Scooby Slapper Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Karma :

https://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2400345.ece

One part of me wanted them to stray just that little closer so we could open up on them!

Shame we didnt get to send some Typhoons out, awesome planes!
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Adam_P · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Karma :

Typhoons have already come face to face with them, it's been going on for a few weeks now.

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Messy · Scooby Slapper Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Karma :

Yep i know, they were mobilised earlier last month i think, there was two typhoons that went them.

Silly Russia!
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

They've been doing that for years.

Anyway, crap intercept. It's not a proper 'Bear Hunt' unless the intercepting aircraft is inside the Bears wingspan. Preferrably close enough to write obscene notes to the rear observer in the bear and hold them against the cockpit canopy.
These are intercepts:
"Come about to bearing 090 and leave our airspace or you will be fired upon."
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https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/v-vs_tu-16pp_over_cv-63_kitty_hawk.jpg
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McGee · O RLY? Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Karma :

Man that Russian thing looks archaic, bet it could take a shit load of damage unlike most western crap.
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Its pronounced Jixxer!

owdamer · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Karma :

That thing has been around in some shape or form since 1954....
Its classed as a wmd.
https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/tu-95.htm

JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

Pfft, stick a Hercules over Russia. Thumbs Up

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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

Pretty sure a tonne of Mr Kiplings best Cherry Bakewells could damage a 1950's Russian classic. Thumbs Up

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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Yes and no. They used to intercept them with BAC Lightnings. They only carried two sidewinders but the pilots used to reckon that the 260 rounds of 30mm aden gun ammo they used to carry would be more than sufficient to take a Bear down given that they pretty much can't miss at those sort of ranges.

They would have been able to pretty much pick-off the crew one at a time if they wanted to.

There is a good story about those intercepts. The Soviets were pissed off when pictures were published of Bear crews waving to the crews of the interceptors. It was considered too close to fraternising with the enemy. They started to putting a KGB political officer on board each aircraft whos job it was to stop the crew waving and posing for photographs when they were intercepted.

There is a 20 metre long crawlway between the main cabin and the tail observation window on a bear. The lightning crews would pull alongside the tail section and wave at the crew until the KGB man came and made them stop. The lightning would then pull forwards and wave at the pilot. The aim of the game was to see how many times you could make the KGB officer crawl along the tunnel before he got fed up with it.

There is also a great story about a Lightning that intercepted an American U2 spyplane, The U2 hadn't got permission to overfly, they never asked because they thought they were too high for anyone to get near anyway.

Not to be outdone the RAF scrambled a lightning and the pilot managed to balance it vertically on its tail and used the thrust to shove it an extra 15k feet above the point where he'd lost all lift from the wings. He managed to hold it there just long enough to light up the U2 with his missiles before performing the mother of all stall-turns.
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Ahmato_ · Crazy Courier Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Karma :

That sounds like some interesting stuff there stinkwheel. You got a link or something that I can read up on this kind of thing?

Another Question:
Realistically, WHY are the Russians doing this? Show of strength? Flexing its muscles in front of the international media?
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Most of those stories were picked up off RAF personell when I was in the cadets. A great deal of pissing about went on (and presumably still does).

They're testing our response times in flying the Bears over, then they can feed them into their wargames computers. During the height of the cold war, a soviet aircraft would be intercepted within 30 minutes of entering UK airspace from any airbase in the UK. Lightnings were REALLY fucking fast.
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Yeah. So Bear enters UK airspace over Shetland. Lightning scrambles from the South of england and is there within 30 minutes. That time is from the pilot being told he has to go to him being there.

Obviously they would have scrambled an aircraft from Lossiemouth for a Bear coming in over Shetland which would be there a good deal quicker.

Another fairly off-topic aircraft story I heard was of a servciceman based in Larbruch in Germany. His parents were involved in a serious car crash and were dying in Glasgow General. The RAF got him to their bedside in 45 minutes via the back seat of a phantom F4.
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Blau Zedong · Banned Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Karma :

Think the lightning carried "red top" missiles. Find a lightning heritage site online and bare witness to how many were lost due to mechanical failure.

They are however awesome aircraft. Rumour was they could outclimb an F15....
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Aye. Twin, counter rotating airscrews on each engine. The fact that you can fly along next to one in a phantom is testament to their speed.
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