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PostPosted: 20:55 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Damnit! Caught doing 60 in a 30 zone. [Updated] Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes I'd just come off a national speed limit road and onto a 30 road, which is a long sweeper with fields on either side and a bus lane, and I didn't slow to 30... I was rolling along at about 58.

Won't do me any good but absolutely everybody does at least 45 along this road, it's practically a dual carriageway.

Anyhow, a traffic cop overtook two bikes that were behind me (who presumeably slowed down) and I mistook his headlights for them tailgating me...

Because it was 60 in a 30 zone it's not a fixed penalty and apparently I'll get a summons Rolling Eyes Probably a £100 fine and 4 points or something?

Was here (Google map): https://tinyurl.com/yrt33f

First time I've had points, ought to blow the insurance.

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PostPosted: 21:10 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should've turned yer idle speed down
Then you would've been able to brake from 60 to 30 much faster

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PostPosted: 21:12 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The traffic copper advised that 3-4 points and £100 is most likely. He said a ban was theoretically possible but unlikely.

Bloody annoying anyway Confused It's practically a honey trap that road.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Should've turned yer idle speed down
Then you would've been able to brake from 60 to 30 much faster

Wink


You do realise I had the throttle closed and was coasting in first gear? The damn bike wouldn't slow down...
Honestly, officer!
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

They only tend to slap you with a ban if it was WAAAAY over the speed limit , or more importantly, if you were riding / driving dangerously.


That pedal by your right foot, of the lever by your right hand tends to slow you down a bit faster too. Smile
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loply, I do think that your signature is very apt at this time:

"Yamaha SZR660 Caution to the wind, the throttle pinned!"
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattEMulsion wrote:
Loply, I do think that your signature is very apt at this time:

"Yamaha SZR660 Caution to the wind, the throttle pinned!"


Laughing I was actually bimbling at the time. I was probably in like 6th gear at no-revs admiring the scenery.
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

loply wrote:
I was actually bimbling at the time. I was probably in like 6th gear at no-revs admiring the scenery.


Well no doubt 'idling' around the 2500rpm mark. Wink

Isn't it amazing how these things come round to bite you in the ass just when you least expect it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviouslly enough the idle speed had nothing to do with the 50-odd mph i was doing, but I do see the irony yes Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

deanoet wrote:
They only tend to slap you with a ban if it was WAAAAY over the speed limit , or more importantly, if you were riding / driving dangerously.


31Mph or over was an instant ban, they are getting softer these days though.
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you'll get away with a decent haul of points and a fine. By decent haul I mean 4-6 points. I think you'll escape a ban to be honest. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
deanoet wrote:
They only tend to slap you with a ban if it was WAAAAY over the speed limit , or more importantly, if you were riding / driving dangerously.


31Mph or over was an instant ban, they are getting softer these days though.


Yeah, they tend to be more swaying towards whether or not it was dangerous to be doing what they were doing.
Or really taking the piss with the excessive speed.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What exactly does a summons mean? Do I actually have to go to court? Seems a bit much, the traf copper was dead calm and didn't even give me a bollocking, almost didn't care. Only after did I wonder if a "summons" meant actually going to court...
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it means summons to court, ie your case will be heard before the magistrate/judge. You were too far over the limit for you to be given a fixed penalty notice, hence the need for your 'own' hearing because they could technically ban you if they wanted for that speed. Shocked
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew wrote:
loply wrote:
the traf copper didn't even give me a bollocking,


Why should he? what is he going to achieve by shouting at you? apart from you thinking 'what a tosser' after he had left if he did rant and rave at you?


Seconded.
You were driving so far in excess of the speed limit, chances are he probably couldn't see the point in reprimanding you, maybe a trip to court might be a bit of a "wake up call."
It's not his job to tell you off, you're an adult now.
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick look on the website shows that if I dont plan to contest my speed (which would seem pointless) that I can just plead guilty and write a mitigating letter and it will be dealt with in my absence.

I'll write a letter explaining the width of the road, and the fact that there are no buildings on either side of the road, and hope for the best.

This road is literally a dual carriageway with a 30 limit on it. I feel ridiculous going at 30 on it, like people are going to beep at me. It's 3 lanes wide with fields on both sides, and about a mile long... Total honey trap.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

loply wrote:
I'll write a letter explaining the width of the road, and the fact that there are no buildings on either side of the road, and hope for the best.

You do that, they love people whining about how its not their fault. There are no mitigating circumstances, just excuses, and that is exactally how they will read your letter.

loply wrote:
This road is literally a dual carriageway with a 30 limit on it.


In your opinion, which therefore justifies nearly 60 does it? Its a signed 30mph road within a few hundred feet of houses.

loply wrote:
I feel ridiculous going at 30 on it, like people are going to beep at me.

So let them get the fines and points, and all the hassle that goes with it. Pity the guys on bikes behind you didn't decide to beep you.


loply wrote:
It's 3 lanes wide with fields on both sides, and about a mile long... Total honey trap.


Different opinion if you zoom out a bit.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck.

I had to go to court with a mate (so I could drive him home), exactly
same speed 58 in a 30.

It was a dual carriageway.

He got a good solicitor, but she made him aware that a ban was a strong possibility. In the end he got 6 points and a fine.

I can't remember the fine, but the money isn't the issue.

Good luck.

I would recommend going to court though and not just doing it via
letter.

Your decision.


(Ohh one of the persons in court before us, didn't come back out Surprised Surprised Surprised Surprised )
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

you should get away with a small fine and points, i got my 63 in a 30 chucked out of the courts Very Happy get a good lawer. did the police man show you proof of the speed, or was he just guessing??
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 07 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

loply wrote:
Seems a bit much, the traf copper was dead calm and didn't even give me a bollocking, almost didn't care. Only after did I wonder if a "summons" meant actually going to court...

You'll be pulled in front of a magistrate's court who will decide on your punishment - check your summons letter carefully as it will inform you if you actually have to attend or not. If you aren't required to go then the case can be heard in your absence, however it will make a better impression if you show up to hear your case - and possibly reduce the penalty you receive.

I had a summons for doing over the ton on the motorway - the two officers in the police car were actually having a friendly chat with me before they informed me I'd be recommended for prosecution, and likely be pulled in front of a court!

Hope it all goes well mate - I got a good result from my hearing so I wish you luck! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 08 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty certain they won't even consider a ban, on account of the fact the copper said so.

Obviouslly he's the best guy to ask and he reckoned 3-4 points and a £100 fine was most likely, so all the armchair lawyers predicting a ban need to hone their skills a bit.

I'll let you know how it pans out though.

Ichy, the bit near the houses is not where I was speeding. It was the bit with the fields on each side.
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 08 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still reckon about 6 points and a fine. Just a quick thought, you have had your first full licence more than two years haven't you?
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 08 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

He didn't show me proof of speed or even mention that he'd used that speed tracking thing, but I know I was doing over 50 so I don't plan to contest that.

I'll just explain about the misleading road and hope for the best Thumbs Up

I've had my licence for about 3 years I think. Nill pois thus far.
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