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short1uk
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 09 Sep 2007    Post subject: Pinking (if thats how you spell it!) Reply with quote

Bike went in for its 8000 mile service and when I got it back its now pinking.

Idling it goes pink pink pink. (Thats probably not how you spell it I know)

Any ideas? It didnt do it before it so I am not sure what they have done!

Catherine
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 09 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt its pinking.

Its probably a loose mechanical noise from summat that needs tightening.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 09 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usual causes are the timing being too far advanced, the compression is too high for the grade of fuel being used or the mixture is very weak.

At least that's what's usually the matter when a car engine is pinking. However the pinking is usually worst not at idle, but when the engine is under load.

As bish says, it's likely to be something else.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 09 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

As above. Pinking will be most noticable under load, and I suspect the ignition timing on a Hornet will be a long way from being that critical on fuel used.

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PostPosted: 15:25 - 09 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant hear much on the move tbh so i dunno. But didnt do it before its service!
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 09 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Take it back and ask. Don't mention the word pinking though, just a noise that has appeared.

All the best

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PostPosted: 15:52 - 09 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Already rang em and said its making a noise sounds like pinking. But tbh they will have forgot by next week.

Running down next Sat so they can have a look. Hopefully it wont take long to fix. As I have only just got back on the road I wanna ride not sit in garages again!
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 09 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i vote runnins lean as mine is and is making a pinking sound. Very Happy Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 17:12 - 09 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do we fix it?
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 09 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

turn the mixture screws on the carbs, but if they did it wrong go back and tell them to fix it propper, their fault.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 09 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the motor was pinking it would be running pretty roughly. If its running ok its 99% likely to NOT be pinking.
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 10 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO she wasnt running right. I accelerated fast up the link road and she didnt seem as fast as she normally was. Normally 70 appears in a second but it seemed to take ages to get there

Could be me of course with being off the bike for a while
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 10 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well let me tell you now, nothing on that bike during a normal 8000 mile service will have caused your engine to detonate. Firstly id check the fuel you are using.
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could this be the cam chain tensioner? Its not pinking me dad says. Could it be this thing?

How can i check?
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 27 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of interest, what the feck is pinking? Karma Laughing
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PostPosted: 02:04 - 27 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bazza_RS125 wrote:
Out of interest, what the feck is pinking? Karma Laughing


It's when the fuel in the engine explodes too early. Normally you set the spark so the fuel is ignited slightly before the piston goes over top dead centre so the piston is forced down through the entire power stroke.

Pinking occurrs when this happens too early (too far before top dead centre), either because the ignition timing is wrong, the fuel burns too quickly or the fuel is too highly compressed. This tries to force the piston back down the way it came and makes a noise called 'pinking' because that's what it sounds like. It is also known as predetonation and knocks hell out of the bearings and the piston. Can lead to a piston looking like this or much worse:
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/piston.jpg

That's one out of my Jawa 350 when the timing slipped.

So common causes are maladjusted timing or using fuel with too low an octane rating for the state of tune of the engine. If you significantly tune an engine, one of the things you usually do is increase the compression, this makes the fuel tend to explode more quickly. To compensate you need to either adjust the timing (which kind of defeats the purpose by loosing all the power you just gained) or use a higher octane fuel which burns more slowly (which is the correct solution).

Putting crappy fuel in a highly tuned engine can cause pinking under high load. Most standard engines are set up to run on crappy fuel though (ie, unleaded). It used to be more common when you could still buy 2 and 3 star petrol, people would try to economise and put it in their bike then wonder why it ran like a bag of shite
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PostPosted: 02:10 - 27 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure it's not the legendary Honda CCT?

Does the problem go away when the engine is warm?
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 27 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

short1uk wrote:
Could this be the cam chain tensioner? Its not pinking me dad says. Could it be this thing?

How can i check?


Can you not read lad Laughing

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PostPosted: 17:56 - 27 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were the valves checked/ adjusted at the service?

If so there is a chance (if the cams had to come out) that the mechanic has the cam timing out by a tooth, sounds likely if your bike is down on power and running rough.

Might be worth checking your plugs are in tight too, be sure to make sure they are not loose or been cross threaded and that they are the right heat grade..
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 28 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy took the plugs out checked them and said i didnt need new ones so possibly didnt stick them back in right.

Valves possibly not sure?

When I get a spare minute I will take her back the garage and get her looked at.

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PostPosted: 10:19 - 28 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

short1uk wrote:
The guy took the plugs out checked them and said i didnt need new ones so possibly didnt stick them back in right.

Valves possibly not sure?

When I get a spare minute I will take her back the garage and get her looked at.

Catherine


Do you have a Haynes? They DID refill the bike with oil when they drained it didn't they? Shocked
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