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| T.C |
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A number of points to cover.
Firstly, there is no such thing as the fast lane, there is the nearside or driving lane and then there are two overtaking lanes.
If you are sat in the middle lane and you are not overtaking another vehicle and there is little chance of you overtaking another vehicle, you leave yourself opento being reported for driving without reasonable consideration for other road users (a subsection of the careless driving offence) as well as the excess speed.
If other vehicles travel past going quicker than you are doing, it is at the discretion of the officer stopping you as to whether he lets you go or goes after the other vehicle.
There has never been any set precedents as to who must and must not be pulled over, and there are certainly no standing orders in my old force to that affect, it is entirely down to individual choice.
Had you been sat in lane 1 showing good lane discipline travelling at 85, the chances are they would not even have bothered with you. I certainly used to let bikes off at up to 90 showing good lane discipline, especially if they travelled in lane 1, then came out to lane 2 or even lane 3 and then returned to lane 1 when it was safe to do so.
any vehicle sat in lane 2 at that speed was fair game for a tug.
The crew might even have been playing a game of vehicle snooker (depending on the colour of your bike) and it just happened that your colour was next on the scorecard. ____________________ It is better to arrive 30 seconds late in this world, than 30 years early in the next |
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| Barker-CBR 600 |
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Vehicle snooker... that had me laughing! I am so going to get a white bike, they'll never want to get me!
Just to check T.C, wasnt actually pulled was thinking about what would happen in the event!!
And as for lane discpline, nothing pisses me off more than the M6 toll middle laners... come on... indicate left... you can do it...  ____________________ Previous - Gilera DNA50 / XVS125 Dragstar/Honda CBR 600F/GSF 650 Bandit
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Mine is silver as well, does that mean I won't get pulled whilst out on it then?
Pisses me off when people hog 2nd or 3rd lanes when they are overtaking nothing ____________________ Enjoy everyday, tell those you love everyday you love them
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| T.C wrote: | A number of points to cover.
Firstly, there is no such thing as the fast lane, there is the nearside or driving lane and then there are two overtaking lanes.
If you are sat in the middle lane and you are not overtaking another vehicle and there is little chance of you overtaking another vehicle, you leave yourself opento being reported for driving without reasonable consideration for other road users (a subsection of the careless driving offence) as well as the excess speed.
If other vehicles travel past going quicker than you are doing, it is at the discretion of the officer stopping you as to whether he lets you go or goes after the other vehicle.
There has never been any set precedents as to who must and must not be pulled over, and there are certainly no standing orders in my old force to that affect, it is entirely down to individual choice.
Had you been sat in lane 1 showing good lane discipline travelling at 85, the chances are they would not even have bothered with you. I certainly used to let bikes off at up to 90 showing good lane discipline, especially if they travelled in lane 1, then came out to lane 2 or even lane 3 and then returned to lane 1 when it was safe to do so.
any vehicle sat in lane 2 at that speed was fair game for a tug.
The crew might even have been playing a game of vehicle snooker (depending on the colour of your bike) and it just happened that your colour was next on the scorecard. |
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that even after a biker driving so safe he is just pulled over because 50's were more intrested playing a game ____________________ Life is a game u get only one chance to play (Honda CG125,Honda CD200,Kawasaki KE175,Kawsaki GTO125 and now Kawasaki ZX6 R current suzuki GSX-R 750) |
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Whether they were there or not, it would be a perfectly legal manouevre!  |
Really?
I was always under the impression that nipping up the inside left you wide open for a charge of driving without due care and attention should the boys in blue catch you at it. If it wasn't, my regular trips down the A1 to visit my GF would be considerably shorter.
Having waited what I consider a reasonable length of time behind someone who is lane hogging, I usually opt for the 'forcing them out of the way' approach, which is risky (do what I say, not what I do kids!). Even then, a lot of them try to pull only halfway across into the next lane, I just keep on coming until they've pulled over properly though. It's called 'road presence'. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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My bikes red so im buggered.
Anyway.
I dont think they 'should' pull you because your 'just keeping the traffic moving'.
If im on a 30mph road and theres cars infront doing 40mph, im going to keep up with them to keep the cars behind me from moaning, if you get me? Whereas my grandad would be doing 28mph all the way
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| stinkwheel wrote: | | T.C wrote: |
Whether they were there or not, it would be a perfectly legal manouevre!  |
Really?
I was always under the impression that nipping up the inside left you wide open for a charge of driving without due care and attention should the boys in blue catch you at it. . |
As I have explained in the past the specific offence of nearside overtake was removed when the 1972 Road traffic Act was introduced and put it all under the banner of careless driving which is a section 3 offence under the act.
To prove that offence, it has to be shown that the level of riding or driving fell well below that which would be expected from a reasonably competent driver and rider, and providing the rider or driver maintains a fairly consistant speed, does not cause other traffic to alter course of speed (even though the middle lane hoggers are in the wrong), and no collision occurs, then no offence will be committed.
I did it this afternoon in the car. Vehicle sat in lane 2, Police car following behind me, I continued in lane 1 and carried out a nearside overtake Not even a suggestion of being pulled, although the car was manned by a crew that I trained many years ago  ____________________ It is better to arrive 30 seconds late in this world, than 30 years early in the next |
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Music to my ears!
I spend a lot of time going up and down the M1 in my car for work, i'm fed up of having to move from the inside lane right the way to the outside lane, and then back to the inside lane again - just to overtake someone who doesn't understand how motorways work!
There is talk of dedicating one of the lanes of my local stretch of M1 to HOV (high occupancy vehicles) only - i read today that around 50% of the traffic occupies the outside lane, and only around 15% use the inside lane (the majority of which is HGV etc).
I firmly believe that motorway use should be part of the driving/riding test, perhaps with better education the traffic would be a lot more free flowing and there would be a few less accidents - come on ffs, how do you crash on a motorway? It's the simplest form of driving; all the traffic going the same way (except for the M4 in Wales ), all junctions on the left etc etc. If you cause a crash on a motorway it's generally for one of 2 reasons: insufficient distance from the car in front or poor observation during lane changes.
Twats. ____________________ Space Monkey #7
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Well that is safe, its the shooting from RH lane to LH lane to pass the slow cars and back out again, that would warrent a pull.
Middle lane stickers does make you wonder if the Yankie overtake on anyside would work.... Or be a nightmare... ____________________ Just because my bike was A DIVVY, does not mean i am...... |
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Nice one T.C, you've made my day.
I always sit behind a lane hogger for about 30 secs, perhaps do a little weave so my lights definitely catch their mirrors, then if they still insist on staying in the lane dive up the inside, rejoin their lane and flash my left indicator a couple of times.
Always felt a bit guilty of undertaking as I too thought I could get done for it.
It is annoying when in a car though and there's two outer lanes doing 50 mph and nothing in the left lane for literally a mile. Worst is when lane hoggers flash at you when you come back into their lane, even though you're at least 20 mph faster than them and they wouldn't of overtaken anything for like another 5 mins anyway. Makes my blood boil when they have a go, even though it's obvious that their driving is shite!
This adds fuel to my belief that before being allowed to drive on a motorway, you should have to take a further test. After all, L plates ain't allowed on the motorway and some people just don't have the natural intelligence to work out good motorway etiquette.
I've heard that lane discipline is much better on the continent. Why is this ? Can we not use the same solution of education in the UK? ____________________ Current: ZZR1400
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In France the lane hoggers get treated to serious tail gating accompanied by full beam headlights and l/h indicators on.
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Tried that solution, I just look just as much of cnut as the lane hogger though.
Don't suppose the French mind looking like cnuts though!
Perhaps instead of giving dibble radar guns we should give them proper guns and they should "Take out" any lane hoggers.
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