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PostPosted: 04:28 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Keeping warm Reply with quote

Winter is rapidly approaching, its dark earlier, temperatures are plummeting through the night, and soon the roads will be covered in grit and manhole covers frosted over.

Well, there's plenty of older threads, with great advice on surviving the winter months, but with the influx of new members since last winter, I'm sure there's plenty more advice, tips and tricks, along with useful experience they can share to make winter riding less daunting.

Every winter, I find myself freezing cold, despite having thermals, layers, gloves, a balaclava etc. But you see people in the antarctic wearing specialist gear, in temperatures much, much lower than even the worst winter conditions we see here and they dont seem to mind it half as much as me. I'm expecting wind chill is the biggest factor, so working out how to reduce its effects during a long haul would be a huge benefit.

So, how do you keep warm in winter, during the dreary commute to and from work in chill and darkness, or a long slog down the motorway to visit relations a few hundred miles away?

Any gear recommendations? Particular products? Do share Smile
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PostPosted: 04:37 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frank Thomas Jacket and textile pants. A balaclava a neck gator and a hoody underneath my jacket.

And summer gloves !
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PostPosted: 04:44 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

bwfc4eva86 wrote:

And summer gloves !


Summer gloves? Laughing I even bought lobster gloves last year to keep fingers warm, and they worked a treat. Cold hands are a nightmare for me on the motorway in winter time. May invest in heated grips even Shifty

The winter before last was even worse, and even stuffing a magazine or newspaper under my clothing layers couldnt keep the chill off!
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PostPosted: 06:53 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Re: Keeping warm Reply with quote

ram_doom wrote:
But you see people in the antarctic wearing specialist gear, in temperatures much, much lower than even the worst winter conditions we see here and they dont seem to mind it half as much as me.


Now then. Think how many of them return with limbs/toes/fingers missing due to frostbite. Or worse still, how many don't return at all?

God i'm so going to die...my first english winter.

And windchill probably doesn't help like you said, so stick the speedlimits during the winter. That's what summer's there for! A good old ragging session! Laughing

Wearing loads of layers of clothes is all fine and dandy but i doubt it'd do fuck all to keep you warm, like you mentioned. As gay as you look in them you really need some thermal long johns and the layers or clothing over them. And a hot chocolate at the other end works miracles Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure that when you layer stuff on its not all too tight, under your jacket or in the gloves.
Its the layers of air trapped that help to keep you warm, if its all too tight you dont get that. So get a size larger coat for winter that allows a couple of extra layers underneath.
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

BFO fairing, heated grips, decent textiles and lobster-claw style gloves

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PostPosted: 09:50 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the really cold days i raid my drawer and get a few extra t-shirts, jumpers with a big textile jacket. Works a treat Thumbs Up

And, Polar Buffs, great things for your neck
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Birthday suits Thumbs Up

Last year was my first on a bike, and i had to go about 2 miles to my mates, so i decided to wear:
Bottom half...
Leg warmers, Tracksuit bottoms, Jeans
2 pairs of thermal socks
Top half...
2 Football tops, jumper and biker jacket.


I also wear a neckwarmer that comes upto my nose which keeps my face warm, oh and a visor helps a lot Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12:32 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

exactly the same as my summer gear, textiles wise that is
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

my summer leathers, with a fleece underneath, alpinestars drystars gloves, and if its reeeeeeeeealy cold my sidi one piece gimp suit.

I may invest in some heated grips this winter tho.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Layers, Layers, Layers the more you have the warmer you will be. I use summer gloves all year round as I have heated grips . . . Worth their weight in gold. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biked from London to Wales in the snow last year in Feb on a Friday night. Bike thermometer hovered around 0c until crossed the Severn and then fell to -1C. When not cr@pping it about black ice, I found that lined textile trousers, long-johns, fleece, unlined textile jacket and masses of air trapping layers did the trick. Keeping neck warm was an absolute must as were heated grips. And stopping every 45 mins to do press-ups to keep warm. Probably won’t do again… Confused Sad
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you give it loads of throttle everwhere, it heats up the tyres, specially if its snowing, i find supercorsas a good winter/ snow tyre. Razz

Or just get some thermals, good textiles and a suitable winter tyre and dont be stupid, be smooth.
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
exactly the same as my summer gear, textiles wise that is


Good advice, some people just pile too much on and thats worse than nothing.

Main things to keep warm are head (no problems there..) Hands and feet.
Good boots will keep feet warm, some muffs or crosser guards to keep wind off hands work well for your fingers. Making sure that you gloves are not too tight is half the battle to keeping the digits warm.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I freeze now with a hoodie and leather jacket.
Legs dont get too bad its just the top half.

Will invest in thermal socks/gloves and another neck wamer this year.
I only really travel to Brighton, other then that its just to work and back.
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for lobster gloves (cheers to the BCF'er who posted the link to them going cheap last year - saw me through winter!!!) Thumbs Up paired up with silk inner gloves (from nevisport).

Agree that it's all about layers.

Keep your heat in, and the wind and rain out. If you get soaked you'll be freezing for the rest of the ride.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good, old fashioned string vest with a fairly snug fitting t-shirt over the top works wonders. Traps loads of air.

You get dead thin, polyurethane thermals from ski-wear shops which are both comfy and warm.
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
You get dead thin, polyurethane thermals from ski-wear shops which are both comfy and warm.


These are a god send, i use these snowboarding in extremly cold temps, i got lost once and missed the last lift, and ended up walking about 10 miles back to the village, my hands felt like wood and my feet left like wood, but i wasnt /that/ cold.
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well lets try and see what winter is going to be like as it hasnt exactly been cold the last few winters has it.I buy the best jacket that I can buy I bought a hein gericke psxr blouson jacket 3years ago and this I have been wearing only (that is until now I have just got a paragon rst jacket and trousers recently) I wear a vest a t-shirt also a ski-polo neck t-shirt if it is really cold then maybe a fleece my hands I have a choice of alpinestars sp-3 gloves I think ! (ride recommended) and heine gericke patheon 5 fingers.As for boots just thick thermal socks I wear a balaclava under the helmet too. If you just ride every now and again then you will not be accustomed to the cold but nearly everyday and you have a good start to beating the cold than someone who is just occasional rider.Also if you think that your cold you will be cold try maintaining road concentration then you will last longer in the cold winter days no matter how warm you wrap up if you have a mind set that it is cold and you are cold then you will be cold soon enough will power has a lot to do with most things stupid as it sounds.With the gear I wear as listed above I find I can ride to london and back from northampton though not with ice on the ground.I guess this winter my new jacket and trousers are going to be tested but bike magazine said the pro series was very good and the paragon is the next new season up (improved as it were).If you like heated grips then install them other than that buy a heated vest and or gloves,something I have never bought as yet aslo read the bike magazines for tips like not to tough bear metal or allow your hands to get cold prior to putting your gloves on as they will never warm back up!! I found that out to my mistake.If your journey is long like 50 miles or more build a stop off point for a hot coffee
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i worked in Millets the best bit of advice for keeping warm was. Instead of one big thick layer use a larger amount of thinner layers, reason is due to trapping the heat in between the layers.

Something like, Thermals, t'shirt & trousers, micro fleece (x2 if its that cold), then your bike gear.

Micro Fleeces are a god send as they are real thin yet really warm

Have a look on www.millets.co.uk or www.blacks.co.uk for micro fleeces.

I agree with andy on the Buffera range, fantastic piece of kit.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i'm going for a blast it will be my summer kit but with a hoody ontop of leathers and a pair of inner gloves and heated grips. For long journeys it's a pair of lidl trousers, a Triumph textile jacket and the above kit. I usually have a buff too. But now I'm gonna be comutting this winter so a decent pair of gloves and a polar buff are on the shopping list.
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything for the nads? Or to be more accurate the inner thighs that grip the tank

Its the only part of me that never seems to stay warm and I am consciously aware off when getting of the bike.

You have to think like an onion, have many layers as mentioned. I found the balaclava or neck tube to be a great asset to keeping the chill down for the face and ears.
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
Anything for the nads? Or to be more accurate the inner thighs that grip the tank

Its the only part of me that never seems to stay warm and I am consciously aware off when getting of the bike.

You have to think like an onion, have many layers as mentioned. I found the balaclava or neck tube to be a great asset to keeping the chill down for the face and ears.


Nothing worse than having your crotch frozen to the tank Laughing

(Especially for those that pee themselves to keep warm!!)
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Along these lines my leather trousers went away for the winter today, and my thermal liners went into the textile trousers and jacket I wore this morning. Air temperature was 12deg C + 10mph NNW + 95 mph = bloody cold must've been minus something or other. I left my summer gloves on as I have heated grips and handguards but it'll be winter glubbs tomorrow, and may invest in an Edz gimp suit. Whistle
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