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PostPosted: 21:20 - 14 Sep 2007    Post subject: Backfiring Flames Reply with quote

Hiya,
I have a problem, well not so much a problem i think it looks quite cool but as the title says when i backfire my bike (the normal kill button trick) dunno why i do i just do lol, i get flams shoot out the exhaust, i was wondering if this is normal or is it just me?
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 14 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:37 - 14 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you think causes the backfire? (clue is in the wrd Backfire). Wink
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 14 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

on this not, can a spark plug spark straight off a 12v battery and if it were drilled into the exhaust would doing this backfire business damage the engine in any way

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PostPosted: 00:07 - 15 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

correct me if i'm being naive and simplistic here but if you can ignite your exhaust gases in the exhaust you're probably running waaaaay too rich or riding around with the engine choked off.

by the time they reach the back of the exhuast you hopefully have mainly CO2, and any unburnt fuel aint gonna ignite in there.

Unless you're running a two stroke with a large hole in the exhaust to draw in oxygen, which probably won't work too well either.

and no, you can't spark a plug off a 12V battery the HT leads provide about 120,000 V (or something, it's high!) from the secondary coil.

that is all.
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 15 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it just CO from the engine, doesn't the catalytic converter, well, convert it into CO2?
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 15 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris_millars wrote:
correct me if i'm being naive and simplistic here but if you can ignite your exhaust gases in the exhaust you're probably running waaaaay too rich or riding around with the engine choked off.

by the time they reach the back of the exhuast you hopefully have mainly CO2, and any unburnt fuel aint gonna ignite in there.

Unless you're running a two stroke with a large hole in the exhaust to draw in oxygen, which probably won't work too well either.

and no, you can't spark a plug off a 12V battery the HT leads provide about 120,000 V (or something, it's high!) from the secondary coil.

that is all.



theres a simple trick for carb'd bikes

simply ride down the road at high revs flick the kill switch (or the ignition) for a few seconds (you can pump the throttle to help) as it is mechanical the fuel mixture is still drawn through the cylinders and since there is no spark it gets pushed out the exhaust ports etc and it goes bang when you flick the switch back on
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 15 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to do this about 20 times a day.

after a few months this happened.

good excuse for me to stubby it though. Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 17:53 - 15 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

doyou reckon it causes any damage to the engine? cause i do it a fair few times a day Razz
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 17 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

A mate of a mate had an NC30 and he buggered the engine on his bike using the killswitch trick.

I have an NC24 and even when I get the body panels and stuff finished and the bike is on the road, I won't be doing the killswitch trick.
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 18 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't someone off here do there valves or something by doing this??
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 19 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
Didn't someone off here do there valves or something by doing this??


aye.

And I've seen someone down the Ace break an RD350 by doing it.

Not big or clever IMO.
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 19 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took the silencer off mine and when i change down gear i hear bangs/pops. Confused
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 19 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i used to do it but it got boring, i dont do it anymore plus it stops the killswitch from working if used all the time.
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PostPosted: 02:40 - 20 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My cbr has a tendency to do it everytime i change gear and also if i let off the throttle above 6k. Nice big pops.

And nice blue flames Smile
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 20 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

freestyler_onli wrote:
I took the silencer off mine and when i change down gear i hear bangs/pops. Confused


That's just it running a bit lean, because it can flow more air, but the fuel wasn't added to compensate. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 20 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
freestyler_onli wrote:
I took the silencer off mine and when i change down gear i hear bangs/pops. Confused


That's just it running a bit lean, because it can flow more air, but the fuel wasn't added to compensate. Thumbs Up


Won't it be the PAIR system?
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 20 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Big_Ham wrote:


That's just it running a bit lean, because it can flow more air, but the fuel wasn't added to compensate. Thumbs Up


Won't it be the PAIR system?


Why would that make it pop?

just for the record my CBR600F has had a race can on standard jetting and that still pops on the overrun, no PAIR system on it.
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 20 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you know what PAIR is? AFAIK it should make that popping sound...
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 20 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is PAIR?
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 20 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
What is PAIR?


Air from airbox is injected into exhaust to ignite unburnt gases.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 20 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aha, cheers Toby.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 20 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoNpfjJIg6k

Like this.......
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 21 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Do you know what PAIR is? AFAIK it should make that popping sound...


My hornet never did it when i had the standard can, when I put the el cheapo ebay can on, pop, pop ,pop, put an Akra on pop, pop, pop.

As I say the CBR600F does it with no air bleed into the exhaust......
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 23 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You only find PAIR on the california-mode CBRs.

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