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So chain failures at the splitlink?
No, never had one
47%
 47%  [ 39 ]
One
17%
 17%  [ 14 ]
Two
4%
 4%  [ 4 ]
Three
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
More than three
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Had one fail somewhere else (not at splitlink)
4%
 4%  [ 4 ]
Had one, but not failed
23%
 23%  [ 19 ]
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 22 Sep 2007    Post subject: Ever had a splitlink fail? Reply with quote

In response to: https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=127232

Specifically a chain failure at a splitlink WHEN YOU WOULD NOT HAVE EXPECTED IT.

DO include ones where you've noticed the keeper plate has come off before it totally failed,

DO NOT Include ones you know full well were fucked but didn't bother replacing.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 22 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had a split link chain hence why I haven't voted. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 22 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had 3 2 1 chain fail 'unexpectedly'; wasn't at the split link. Realised the other two cases were with a knackered chain.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 22 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I'm not mistaken drag racers tend to use them?

IF they are kept clean and are fitted properly then they should be fine.. personally I'd araldite it too for good measure

Another thing is if you can remove it you can clean it far easier, and thoroughly, so you could end up with a safer chain?
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 22 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had 'em on the DRZ and with no problems.
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 22 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

only ever used soft links, so i cant really comment, but i would really only prefer to use a soft link cos of the post your refering to.
easier to fit too imo
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 22 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had one fail and I have done 100,s of 1000,s of miles if not over
a million+.But the last one I replaced for one of the lads the clip fell off but
the chain did not break some how.I did have to force the outer part of the
like on when I was replacing the chain so I guess it was just stuck there.

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PostPosted: 22:53 - 22 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr.z wrote:
If I'm not mistaken drag racers tend to use them?


Mind you. How often do drag racers replace their chains? My mate has two split links on his so he can add a longer sections when he winds the swingarm back. I don't think they last very long though.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 22 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if the size of the chain has anything to do with it? The GPZ makes a reasonable amount of power but only has a 520 chain. Always struck me as a bit thin to be honest
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 22 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 and both pretty much at the same place on the same piece of road give or take 20 meters Shocked
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 22 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

do most chains come with split links rather than soft links?
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 22 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I wonder if the size of the chain has anything to do with it? The GPZ makes a reasonable amount of power but only has a 520 chain. Always struck me as a bit thin to be honest


I think the bros is a 525 and most over 400 to 600 that I know.
You might be onto some thing there.
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 22 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted" no never had one" and i dont think i ever will,get the job done properly and forget its there,split links are not safe and i will never have one on any bike i own.



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PostPosted: 23:36 - 22 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes there is that (probably only use them for 2/3 runs so it'd be more down to practicality I'd have thought), but it pisses all over the "you can't use a split link because there not for modern high power bikes" argument that usually comes up..

I'm not really a chain drive kind of guy (permission to enter shafty smug mode?) but mr_fisty does allot more miles than me per and afaik still uses them (at least he used them for a number of years and is still alive)

(btw i read the link after writeing "duuh i thiiiink drag racers use em" Rolling Eyes but ive hered it a few times before)
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 22 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

XlonewolfX wrote:
do most chains come with split links rather than soft links?

Many come with split link and a soft link or hard steel link.
Soft link is fine to me but those hard ones I just don't use.
I think I will just get the tool I need for the hard one's.

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PostPosted: 00:26 - 23 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only ever seen Triple s chains fail at the spring link and I've seen a fair few do it.
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 23 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

why inst there an option for those of us who have had split links that have never failed?

I've got a fucked split link on my off roader and it still hasn't failed Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 06:51 - 23 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only ever suffered one broken chain and it wasn't a split-link type. It was a soft-link but it didn't fail at the joining-link.
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PostPosted: 06:58 - 23 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
mr.z wrote:
If I'm not mistaken drag racers tend to use them?


Mind you. How often do drag racers replace their chains? My mate has two split links on his so he can add a longer sections when he winds the swingarm back. I don't think they last very long though.


Usually when they are stretched or the pins bent. Theyobviously suffer very high loads. The only difference I can think of between drag & road chains is the number of cycles they are subjected to. Drag-racers don't change their chains as a matter of course only when they need to.
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PostPosted: 07:32 - 23 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luke wrote:
why inst there an option for those of us who have had split links that have never failed?


There is an option - 'No, never had one'.

The people who are voting in this poll who have never even had a splitlink chain are biasing the result so the final tally will be meaningless.
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 23 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chain on my zx6r is a 520, it looks like a push-bike chain but apparently they cant take anything bigger Sad
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PostPosted: 08:14 - 23 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, had a 525 chain with split-link fail at 65mph on the M5, I blame the mechanic who serviced my bike 3 days earlier, but meh what you gonna do about it? Neutral
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 23 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a chain snap at the split link - Piccy

The chain stayed on though, so no major disaster.
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 23 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

druidsam wrote:
I voted" no never had one" and i dont think i ever will,get the job done properly and forget its there,split links are not safe and i will never have one on any bike i own.



Ridden thousnads of miles on chains with a split link in, never had a issue with them at all. And that included taking links out to make the chain a better fit, rather than replacing it.

One big advantage is you can remove the chain at regular intervals give it a real good clean and soak in a nice warm bath of chain grease which soaks into all the joints where needed, then sets when its lifted out and cools. No fling with that stuff Thumbs Up

To the average bikers a split link is a better option than trying to rivet a soft link and messing it up.
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 23 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The broken side-plate on that split-link has nothing to do with the securing method. It would have broken were it a split or a rivet link. It's just a poor-quality link. Could be that the chain manufacturer has used a different supplier for the links than the rolls of chain they cut-up and sell as kits but that again isn't the fault of the link design.


Mostly it's a psychological thing - people look at the split-link and can't see how the little clip can cope with all those forces. Of course it doesn't have to.
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