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Ted
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Almost got taken off by a scooter... Reply with quote

Couldn't belive it really... I sort of expect it from cars and vans, but not other people on two wheels!

It was an 'old-skool' style ped (but with no 'L' plate), and the guy had a parker jaket on (MOD...MOD...), and he decided to turn right just as I was coming up to overtake!

It didn't help that the road was wet, but I just about managed to miss the guy and passed on his left side...

Shook me up a bit tho!
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont overtake at junctions!
seen lots of people very nearly crash after overtaking or trying at junctions, myself included.
just prepare to overtake until your past the junction, and remember there are idiots on the road who dont indicate or check properly before junctions.
ride safe!
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mod Scooters like Lambrettas are notorious for having huge blind spots. A lot of riders compensate by adding twenty or so mirrors each side and adding a fox tail to a car ariel at the back as a warning.
Do not overtake at junctions.
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

as above, dont overtake anywhere near junctions

aswell as the above problem, you can also overtake someone, and someone can be joinging the road from a side road, and not see you coming
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i was on a 60 catching up with a crosser when he decided to stop in the middle of road, must have been testing his brakes or somthing. Anyway this when i was getting close enough to overtake.he had no idea i was there no mirrors on the bike. If i was inexperenced i would prob went right into the back of him.
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:
Mod Scooters like Lambrettas are notorious for having huge blind spots.


Had to chuckle at that...

https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c50/DELLORTO/mod.jpg

Can't imagine how something like that could have a blind spot at all, but i'll take your word for it Smile

Tbh, the ped rider should have done a lifesaver to spot you, and you shouldn't have been overtaking at a junction. Although you must have being doing it with a reasonable amount of caution, else you wouldn't of avoided him Wink
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its always other bikes that worry me...

Cars are big but generally slow and predictable. I can usually predict what they are going to do subconsiously. Ones that behave erratically - like unexpected lane-changers get marked in my brain for attention: Keep well clear.

Bikes, on the other hand, are very unpredictable. They come from nowhere, filter up the inside, up the outside, lurch across lanes.... (and I do it too).

When overtaking a bike, I always make sure the bugger knows I am there. Giving the bike a quick burst of noise soon does that.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 27 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ratboy wrote:
dont overtake at junctions!
seen lots of people very nearly crash after overtaking or trying at junctions, myself included.
just prepare to overtake until your past the junction, and remember there are idiots on the road who dont indicate or check properly before junctions.
ride safe!
Yes, definately DON'T overtake at junctions! I had a phone call from my mate last night telling me that he's in hospital as he had a crash the night before. He went to overtake a car at a junction and the car turned right, went in to the side of it, throwing him in to the air and he landed 25ft away, bike's fuckin wrecked and he's got a fracturered neck!

Weird enough, he said he had a feeling before getting on the bike, ya know sort of a "don't get on the bike" feeling, and his bike was up for sale because it cost him a loan of 2k and he was becoming too scared of crashing it.

Insurance probably won't go down in his favour as he was travelling at excessive speed (about 50-60 on a 30 road). Obviously no one knows this but maybe witnesses, eh? He also wasn't sure if the car indicated, but to be fair obviously didn't do his checks or simply couldn't react in time.
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 27 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't there like 5 questions in the Bike and Car Theory Test basicaly saying, "Don't overtake at junctions"
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Ted
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 27 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked ...I never even said the word 'junction'! Laughing

He turned off the public road onto a private road...

I never overtake at actual junctions, as I don't feel its worth the risk...
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 27 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ted wrote:
He turned off the public road onto a private road...


That's a junction, yes?
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Ted
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 27 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well... depends how you look at it really... is a driveway a junction?
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 27 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little story form a trip earlier this year, skip post if easily bored.

On my way back to Scarborough in Spring, I was joined on this big road by a few MOD's, they were lunatics so I slowed to about 30 and as I was behind two, I was on the left side of our lane as he was on the right, he indicated and maneuvered to his right as if going down the side street we were coming up on so I moved a few inches to the middle of the lane, he went to turn and suddenly darted back over to the left I moved back to the left of the lane and he stayed dead infront, happily cruising with his pillion so I'm on the brakes, trying to avoid him when he's ever so slowly, ever so slighly moving to my left taking my front wheel out (cutting me up) and I only just somehow managed to slow and avoid him, he was blissfully unaware of this, all his clan watching in shock and me trying to stay on bike, I stopped at the kerb shaking with relief from my scary encounter, he carried on and about 5 MOD vespa's pulled up and had a quick check that I was ok, after seeing this probably 5 minute incident that seemed like an hour long. I was fine, They went after him and went separate ways.

Although that was not my fault, it just goes to show anything can happen. I hope your mate's ok.
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 27 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ted wrote:
Well... depends how you look at it really... is a driveway a junction?
You said a private road, I thought you meant like the entrance to a farm with big gates and shit.
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Ted
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 27 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well... it was more than a single driveway... but not what I would consider an actual road junction...

Needless to say I expected the guy to either keep going or indicate to turn...
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