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 Posted: 16:36 - 02 Nov 2007 Post subject: Traffic police assault motorist |
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The guy assaulted was accused of drink driving, but was never charged. Sounds like some fabrication by the assaulting copper to me... ____________________ TL1000s, KDX200 |
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Living in Swansea, the city in which the alleged assault took place, I can very well believe the copper did give the guy a good beating.
Its also quite likely, that the bloke stopped was drink driving, but the fact he was not charged, suggests that this may not have been the case.
My dealings with the police in Swansea have more often than not involved threatening and unprofessional conduct by the officer(s) involved, brought about by random "stop checks" at night on lonely roads. Some examples are way out accusations, , implications, verbal abuse, attempts at intimidation and harassment. Could be down to my age, but I'm not exactly a shrimpy, chopsy young chav on the rob I do always ask for names and badge numbers now and since reporting two last year, I've been left alone *touch wood* ____________________ TL1000s, KDX200 |
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should have recorded it on video, that said there have been plenty of videos even CCTV footage of cops blatantly attacking members of the public and or attacking prisoners as they are restrained (there is this video about a man who was hit by a cop car and the police are standing over him gloating refusing to get him an ambulance the man was innocent this story seems to have been swept under the carpet). ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Actually, most personal protection techniques would consider blows to the head a swift and acceptable way to remove the threat. Were you to threaten my health and well-being in such a fashion, I would cheerfully belabour you about the head/bollocks/stomach/whatever. |
Yeah, and the person teaching them can't have ever been in the situation himself. I've had my thumbs in many an eye socket, and no amount of blows to any part of my person ever got them out. What did work, sometimes, was the guy grabbing my arms and pulling them clear, usually by which point I'd already done the damage and wasn't trying particularly hard anymore to stop him. In fact I can't really remember anyone relying on blows to dislodge me, probably more likely that they were residual blows as the guy realised his eyes were under threat and shifted tactics to grabbing my arms. It's instinct.
I've had guys try to gouge my eyes too, and I've prevented it by taking their arms/wrists and violently twisting my head around, not by punching them.
So unless the copper is a total retard he's talking pure BS. ____________________ "There's the horizon! Ride hard, ride fast and cut down all who stand in your way!" |
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| colin1 wrote: | in any job, some people will use methods to get the job done that they arent supposed to
in any job, there will be some people who abuse their position for their own amusement
i have only chatted to three policemen socially, and both have described events that would be considered crimes, but werent treated as such, as the criminals were police officers going about their normal day.
Assault is accepted, and easily justified. The debate amongst police officers seems to be more about those who think no force is excessive, and those who think that there should be some self control. None question a fellow officer assualting people, only disapprove a bit when it seems excessive.
Violence is part of the job, so they dont find it shocking or even something that serious. |
Indeed. So far as the police are concerned criminal assault is an institutionalised perk of the job.
They don't half squeal when they're getting some back on their driveway in the early hours of the morning though. ____________________ "There's the horizon! Ride hard, ride fast and cut down all who stand in your way!" |
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Time to rattle the cage me thinks...
Good, you want to drink and drive? You should be beaten within an inch of your life. Not a few points, fine and maybe taken off the road for a year (which most people will probably drive again during that time anyway)
Drunk drivers = Complete and utter tossers
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| Yoko wrote: | Time to rattle the cage me thinks...
Good, you want to drink and drive? You should be beaten within an inch of your life. Not a few points, fine and maybe taken off the road for a year (which most people will probably drive again during that time anyway)
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but drink driving is an easy to prove case , breath test they refuse then you still have them under the provisions of that law, to be taken for a blood test.
but the case here was that there was no case to answer otherwise he would be facing a drink driving case which he isn't ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Ooh, ooh, I mustn't forget all the times I've driven from Brighton to Eastbourne on acid. And taken a mate for a birthday blast on the first Blade I had, both of us on acid (140mph+ reached down the Polegate bypass).
Of course, I must have been dreaming, because I didn't crash and no kittens were killed.
Here's a fvcking clue Yoko...it's not an inability to drive safely at legal speeds under the influence that causes accidents, it's tw@ts driving beyond their abilities under the influence that does it. Speeds at which they would crash sober, never mind p!ssed.
I'm walking proof of that. Thirty+ years of it. Concentrate, obey the speed limit, and you won't cause any harm.
But of course, if some tosser jumps a red-light and t-bones you, and he's sober and you're drunk, you'll get the blame. Funny that, ain't it?
The law is a cock-sucking ass.
However, I happen to agree with the drink-driving law, to a point. The unfortunate fact is alcohol and drugs have a tendency to make young people think they're Niki Lauder, at which point they drive beyond their ability and have accidents.
What the law should restrict itself to is heavily penalising anyone who causes an accident while over the limit or on drugs. More logical and fair, wouldn't you agree? ____________________ "There's the horizon! Ride hard, ride fast and cut down all who stand in your way!" |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 314 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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