j1 zx6r startup probs

[TUBZ69]

charged up the battery 2day to start the zx for the 1st time in bout 8 months (crash rebuild) eveythin seemed ok, alarm, dash etc all as normal. went to turn her over an all i got was just this faint 'machine gun like' sound from under neath the tank in the enginebay, this eventually died?
any ideas??
starter motor had it?
duff battery charger? ( ive had battery die on the gsxr an sounds the same as it did then wen i tryed to start it, so prehaps the charger is buggered? an hence battery has no power)

i drained the tank. an put fresh fuel in by the way..
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um, you got a voltmeter? if its a dead battery (not holding charge) then it will soon tell you, problem i had was i'd leave it on charge all nite, start it then go to my destination, turn off then the battery would flatten in under 5 mins.
it is possible the battery charger might be a bit broken, but i doubt it unless you've knocked it off something or dropped it?
does the bike turn over on the starter? if so then i dont think it would be that, might just be a weak battery.
let us know how you get on.
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no theres no mechanical engine like sound at all, ust this ratttatatatat from wot i thught could well be the starter motor?
batterys brand new by the way, but took like no time wotsoever to read as fully charged wen i connected it wich i think is a little odd isnt it? as i had to pour the acid into the chambers an all that surely it will need to be fully charged wont it?
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oive bin a donkey.....
its the car charger that i was usin, so hasent actually chardged the batery to any real level.... brilliant..... need more sleep i think


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[G]

If you left the car charger plugged in for a while, it's possible it over-charged the battery, which can knacker them. Should be fine on a new battery, however.

I've never had to charge a new battery, they've always worked fine when left for a couple of hours after putting the acid in.

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ok, batterys fine now, the main problme was i forgot to connect a plastic connector underneath the clutch lever! it hasent fired into life yet but the engine is now turnin over, an huffin a n puffin out of the exhaust a little, 2 BIG BANGS as well with flames! but i think i ran the battery down a bit to much fannyin about with it b4 i found the connection that i hadnt ut together, turnin the alarm on an off etc....
il charge the battery to max again an try 2mora

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[TUBZ69]

right , it now starts an sounds sweet, BUT:

although it sounds purposeful it also sounds pretty friggin lumpy, burbley etc, it comes up to temp fine. i ran it to 100 c an ther were no leaks but it wont idle, if i let go of the throttle it dies, but starts again fine?.....
it now has a full titanium race system (leo vince) an it hasent bin set up at all yet , (b4 the crash it was standard apart from a remus end can) and it has bin sittin for about 8 months (with the carbs an airbox off) without being started, so carbs are probly a little out of shape anyways so that wont help....
wot happens to carbs wen there left sittin incidently, do they collect moisture or?
any ideas peeps?
thanx
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[TUG]

possible a jet could of had a bit of off petrol in it? pop em back on after having a look inside if alls good like the diaphrams then they might just need a balance and idle reset to match you zorst and maybe richen or lean out the idle mixture to suit your zorst but if your having it dyno'd am sure they'll sort that for you.
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[Phil_P]

Does indeed sound like perhaps one of your cylinders isn't running as well as the others. This could be caused by gungy petrol gum bunging up those tiny jets in the carbs. When you first start it, do a quick check on exhaust pipe temps to see if one cylinder is taking a bit long to warm up. Pulling apart carbs on a multi can be a bit of a PIA but you may need to do it, although a duff plug might just be letting you down too.

With the aftermarket cans you might need to think about a bit of re-jetting to get everything just as it should be.
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yea also the throttle cables arent as smooth as they should be, i t hink its the carb end. it opens up ok ( a bit stiff) but takes its time to close?!!) this means wen reved it revs higher than my action on the twist grip itself?
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[TUG]

is your cable routing correct? forgot how mine went and it did the same. if your thinking of lubeing the cables up use some red grease, as is good for cables, WD-40 makes the cable wrap swell.
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you not got a manual to give you a rough idea? have you had a look at your carbs or checked the exhaust pipes to see if its firing on all 4?
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ok started it again a minute ago, started up no probs, all the manifold pipes are the same temp, no probs there, i havent tryed to turn the bars an see if it revs, but will do asap... il haveto have a look at the throttle asembly on the carb itself, an give it a good old clean!
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