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kingiro
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 16 Nov 2007    Post subject: NSR125 with big engine? Reply with quote

Is it posible to put a 250 or 400cc, 4 stroke engine on Honda NSR125R?
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 16 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

anything is possible with a grinder and a welder, i dont know if any are a direct fit, gixxermick has the nsr250 am sure he will be in here soon to give a few suggestions, have you been over to nsrworld? or any other NSR forums? there might be a few users on NSR forums who have done similar mods.
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 16 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dare say you could get a largish thumper in there,,
due to how narrow the frame is, you would only get a single in,
i reckon you could get a xr400 or xr600 engine in with little bother,
you may have to get a cradle made up, but, you might get away with just some adapters for the engine mounts.
i think if i had an engine and a frame, i would defently give it a go,
but bodging on that scale isn't every ones cuppa tea Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 16 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLUEX5 wrote:
** waits to here from xlonewolfx as to why an NSR250 owner would be able to advise on putting a bigger lump in an NSR125....** Rolling Eyes


because 250 owners have more knowledge of fitting a bigger engine than 125 owners do?

i only have a 125 so wouldn't have a clue how to fit a bigger engine but when i get my 600cc i'll also magically all of a sudden know how to fit a porsche 911 engine into my lawnmower Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 16 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a guy who fitted a cb500 engine in a Mito.

Oh and it's turbocharged, and intercooled.
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 16 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLUEX5 wrote:
** waits to here from xlonewolfx as to why an NSR250 owner would be able to advise on putting a bigger lump in an NSR125....** Rolling Eyes

because they might on the off chance have done something like that, and possibly nsr owners are members of a NSR dedicated forum..
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 16 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol no, but fitting a bigger engine to a 125 is a stupid fuckin idea tho, if your gunna put a bigger fuckin engine in a frame for a smaller lower powered machine then the frame will need strengthening, you will have to have mounts made to fit, you will have to make sure the front sprocket lines up with the rear one.
why not save your fuckin money and buy a 600?
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 16 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

XlonewolfX wrote:
lol no, but fitting a bigger engine to a 125 is a stupid fuckin idea tho, if your gunna put a bigger fuckin engine in a frame for a smaller lower powered machine then the frame will need strengthening, you will have to have mounts made to fit, you will have to make sure the front sprocket lines up with the rear one.
why not save your fuckin money and buy a 600?
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I don't agree. Most modern bikes - especially alloy-framed bikes - can handle vast increases of power without modification. The reason is that they have to be able to support the suspension and braking forces of the largest person you could imagine that would ever ride it. A 30-stone person riding a stock bike will probably put far more stress on the rolling chassis than a 10-12 stone person on a bike modified with more power.
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 16 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

fitting a larger engine to a nsr 125 frame isn't a stupid idea, and a 4 stroke single generally won't be any more powerful than a smokey single, a nsr is around 30hp derestricted, which is about the same as a xr400,
the frame is more than capable of handling alot more than 30 measly hp with out having to strengthen it in the slightest.

if i had a rolling chassis and a xr400 engine sitting out side right now,
i wouldnt even think twice about trying to merge the 2 together to make a light, reliable, and easy to ride, smooth revving little pocket rocket Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 16 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ban me from the workshop section then, i told him to ask a person who owns a nsr or ask a nsr dedicated forum, why is that so fuckin wrong? mick put a 1000 lump in a 400 if i remember correctly.

bluex5 i dont care if i post shit, its you who gets pissed off reading it. am not telling him to pour sand in is engine, or should i?
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 17 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the answers (excuse me for my English I'm from Bulgaria).The reason that I want to change the engine is because the origina one is two stroke and 125cc.(brokes every two years and heat up very fast).4 strokes engines have longer life and are more economic.I sell this bike for 500 pounds in BG.Is it a good prise.
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 17 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you buy it for £500 or sell it for £500
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 17 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether the frame can handle it or not, I'd be sceptical but it could be done.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 17 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingiro wrote:
The reason that I want to change the engine is because the origina one is two stroke and 125cc.(brokes every two years and heat up very fast).4 strokes engines have longer life and are more economic.I sell this bike for 500 pounds in BG.Is it a good prise.

A well cared for 2 stroke should neither break every two years nor get too-hot fast. It may heat up fast, but that's a good not a bad thing and definitely not the case with my RS250.

A 4 stroke engine of twice the size for a similar use (ie, say 125cc 2 stroke mx vs 250cc 4 stroke mx) tends to be less reliable/need more maintenance than the smaller 2 stroke.

Oh and lonewolf; seeing that this forum is linked to from NSR125.com and is I'd say one of the biggest collections of NSR owners current and previous on the internet, it seems to be an ideal place to ask.

The Mito is obviously a popular choice for putting bigger engines in, usually without reinforcing.
There are some good reasons to do it, such as if you like the thumper engine in a road bike; there aren't really many choices.
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 17 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm selling the bike for 500 pounds in BG.
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