Fastest accelerating motorcycle?

John · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Apr 2003 Karma :

https://www.bsbikes.co.uk/triumphrocket3.htm

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

it is the torquiest production motorcycle, previously that honour was held by the 1800 Goldwing! Razz

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Dusty · King of the Rim Joined: 25 Mar 2003 Karma :

My bet is it's also heavy, in keeping with Triumph design, therefore can get the power down(in a straight line). Razz

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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

mr jamez · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Karma :

the Rocket III is one of the quickest accelerating bikes ever built...to 30mph Wink

Dusty · King of the Rim Joined: 25 Mar 2003 Karma :

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

I suspect alot of it will be due to the wheel base; not sure what it is, but reckon it's lnoger than most sports bikes.

Stick an extended swing arm on a GSXR1000 and I reckon it'll keep up okay. Over 100 the rocket's gonna have a lot less of a chance because it has to make up for a lot worse aero-dynamics.

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

You forget that the Rocket makes 140 ftlb, so a gixxer with an extended swingarm would need a bit of tuning too...

The swingarm isn't going to make it accelerate faster, just able to keep the front wheel down. I know the gixxer is lighter too, but I still reckon the rocket will accelerate faster.

Whats the peak torque and dry weight of a gixxer 1000?

torque to weight ratio of the Rocket is 0.454 (assuming torque is 147 ftlb and weight is 320kg as quoted on the site)

gixxer is about 75ftLb ish at a guess weighing in at around 165Kg (dodgy dry manufacturer weight)

so thats oh... look at that 0.454.....

maybe a longer arm might make a difference after all! Smile

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

From what I've heard the GSXR will lift it's head at pretty high speeds. With stupidly powerfull bikes the limits are going to be keeping the front wheel down, not the amount of power you've got. I susepct the better aerodynamics will add in to make both of them similar... I also note that he lists 0-100mph, rather than the, IMO, more important standing 1/4.

T.C · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Karma :

I am taking the factories press Rocket III to Poland later on in the year (first long ride on this bike for press purposes) I will let you know what it is like.
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Please do. Be interested to know.

Are you doing much weight lifting to prepare for the riding position Wink

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The BeefMeister · Crazy Courier Joined: 20 Jun 2003 Karma :

I heard the Honda CR500 was very fast on acceleration.

Don't know if its the fastest though.
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

The CR 500 is very fast accelerating on dirt.

Stick it on tarmac and it's not gonna be anywhere near a sports bike... not only does it have a short wheel base, but it also has a high centre of gravity, so it's a lot more likley to wheelie than go forward.

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Racer X · Scooby Slapper Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Karma :

I think the Busa is still the fastest machine around (that you can buy out of the shop) The Rocket 3 has 140HP compared to the Busa's 175HP. The Rocket 3 is also heavier than the Busa.
From a power-to-weight ratio point of view, i would say the Busa will chew up the Rocket and spit it out like gum!!!!!
Just my thoughts on this whole thread. Karma

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stevo as b4 · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Karma :

That new triumph just needs a V&H 3-1 drag pipe, and a nice shiny blower fitted on the side, with a 3" wide drive belt, just to give it a much needed 50bhp boost, and then you'd have the perfect Mad Max4 Vehicle, so come on triumph you know it makes sense!
Seriously i too doubt that the Rocket 3 will actually out accelerate a big bore sports bike from rest. I know GSXR/R1's etc would be hard to launch really fast, but the weight difference is huge, and i would think that from a standstill weight is a big consideration. The Busa etc would be able to transmit more of its power to the road than a GSXR, wheelspin aside, and so should get far enough ahead of the triumph to beat it on 0-60 and 0-100mph. Long wheelbase cruisers/muscle bikes generally dont accelerate that quickly as wheel spin is a problem. Look at the Vmax, some people claimed that it was like a road legal drag bike, and would trounce sports bikes on the 1/4 mile. It was proven in a race against a blade that by the time the rear hoop stops squealing, the blade has buggered off into the distance. It still looks impressive though to lay a 100m black line, and see all that smoke pouring from the back wheel. The area where the Triumph will excel is midrange acceleration, and roll ons in top gear, where that huge torque, will likely make up for its considerable weight.

bigredbusa · Derestricted Danger Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Karma :

WHATS ALL THIS CRAP ABOUT BUSA'S BEING SHITE , 500 QUID DOWN BIG MAN . AT SANTAPOD IN THE NEW YEAR .

WE WILL SEE HOW QUICK IT IS , AFTER ALL YOU SEE SO MANY OF EM DRAG RACING.

AND IF BY VERY SLIM CHANCE THAT YOU BEAT ME (BECAUSE I WAS ASLEEP AT THE LIGHTS) YOU CAN SPEND THE MONEY ON A DEPOSIT ON A MANS BIKE .

COME ON PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS , I WILL EVEN TAKE THE GAS OFF.

FUCKING TRIUMPH SHITE!!

https://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/188665/BUSA1.jpg

Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Your bike may be big and red with nitrous, but mine has a seat Razz

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

I'll race you...

https://www.dragbikes.ndirect.co.uk/images/contest/Argentina1.jpg

I've since added an extended swingarm and a new paint job

bigredbusa · Derestricted Danger Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Karma :

SORRY ONLY PIC I COULD FIND ........................

BUT IF IT MAKES MR TRIUMPH FEEL ANY BETTER I WILL RACE IT WITH THE SEAT OFF !!

FUCKING TRIUMPH SHITE

The BeefMeister · Crazy Courier Joined: 20 Jun 2003 Karma :

Looks like you lost your seat mate. Laughing

Try some tie wraps to keep it on. Wink

Who cares If your bikes faster than most, not proving anything really. Just a waste of time really.

I'll challenge you. Me on my pushbike and you pushing your 'Busa. Then we'll see who's accelerates faster. Razz

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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :