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Dom
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Insurers that offer any bike cover (FYI: Boring thread) Reply with quote

I'm currently trying to find an insurer who will give me cover for my Hornet and let me ride other insured bikes with the owner's permission. Other than Carole Nash, who are quoting me £400 more than my £250 renewal price, I'm not having any luck as I'm 20 and not 21, which seems to be the magical cut off point at which insurance companies think I'll somehow become more sensible.

Is anyone aware of an insurer who will let me ride other bikes before I'm 21? It's getting very annoying having a shiny Monster in the garage that I can't ride. Brick Wall
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

for most insurers 25 is the magical age
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. Both my previous car insurers said I would not be insured on other cars 'til I pass 25 (currently 19). I imagine it will be similar with bike insurance.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I've had a couple of places say that too. Either way I get the impression it's not going to happen.

A nice bike in the garage, permission to ride it and I'm happy to pay a bit extra for the insurance yet I can't ride it legally because nobody'll offer the cover. Stupid.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrian flux & Equity red star seemed to do this for me ,
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Direct Choice do it for me, but afraid I don't know if they have an age cut off.

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:28 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm insured to ride any bike (I only have TPFT cover to boot), that's with MCE Insurance underwritten by KGB Lloyds Motor Policies.
I'm 21, too.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the suggestions. No joy with Adrian Flux or MCE (they want silly money) but Equity are supposed to be calling me back later. I'll try Direct Choice too. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine's with Highway through Swinton, and I'm 22, though I don't know of any age cut-off with them.

They added this to my policy automatically after I notified them of passing my DAS and buying a new bike.
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

how VERY tempting..

I've just checked a quote for Trade cover, giving me fully comp on ANY bike in my posession, as long as it's involved in 'sales, service or demonstration purposes' and includes personal use too. It would mean that any one of my 7 bikes would have to be 'for sale' or 'in for service for a customer' but I buy and sell that many bikes throughout the year, or have friend's bikes that I'm repairing that that's not impossible to claim.

£610 per year.

I think that's VERY tempting...

that's less than I'm paying now, but giving me fuly comp on any bike, anywhere, even if I don't own it is nice. Would also save hassles when it comes to tax my various bikes, as I don't currently have them all insured, so don't want to pay insure it JUST to tax it, if I'm only going to sell it on. (as happened recently with the GPZ)

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PostPosted: 17:24 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im 20 and have cover to ride other bikes. Im with MCE underwirtten by KGB. They were stupidly cheaper than anywhere else for me 20yrs old on a ZX6R 4 years NCB for £180.
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Equity Red Star (I think) though Choice Quote and the dont give you any other if your insurance is for a bike less than 400cc. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 20, and my car policy with CIS lets me drive or ride any other car or motorcyle that does not belong to me etc.

Not sure if they do bike policies though...
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im 20 and covered on Any bike and any car.
Quinn Dire t for my car insurance
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Motorcycle Direct for my bike insurance.

There were also the lowest quotes i could find, Pay around £300 on my Fazer 600 with 3 years NCB and £600-£700 on my car with 1 Years NCB

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PostPosted: 21:54 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try Bell, part of admiral I think.

https://www.insurancemotorbikes.co.uk/bell/

They let me drive any other cars at 18, don't know if they'll offer it with a bike policy? A good £800 cheaper than anyone else for me too!
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aquote - I'm 23 and can ride other bikes, with no limitations (Doesn't have to be insured by someone else)

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PostPosted: 22:01 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

feef wrote:
how VERY tempting..

I've just checked a quote for Trade cover, giving me fully comp on ANY bike in my posession, as long as it's involved in 'sales, service or demonstration purposes' and includes personal use too. It would mean that any one of my 7 bikes would have to be 'for sale' or 'in for service for a customer' but I buy and sell that many bikes throughout the year, or have friend's bikes that I'm repairing that that's not impossible to claim.

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No it means you have to be registered for tax as a motor trader.

Insurance companies have come down hard on this scam in the last few years.

There are also some real interesting clauses about claiming if the vehicles aren't kept on a business premises. For instance the bikes at my house are insured for up to £3000 each but no collective claim can exceed £3000 no matter how many are stolen from home. If you want a higher collective theft policy you end up having to look at getting redcare alarms installed.

It's always easy to buy the policy just not easy to use it.
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

tax as a motortrader eh? ,

I suppose you can register for self employment pay the £2.20 class 2 NI , make zilch and get a class 2 exemption certificate.

Along with this subordiate say 10% of your house space as biz property and declare this on your tax return ,

lose money on it and claim S381 or was it S380 on it to pay less tax on your day job.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
tax as a motortrader eh? ,

I suppose you can register for self employment pay the £2.20 class 2 NI , make zilch and get a class 2 exemption certificate.



And that point then invalidates your insurance as if you are making nothing you are deemed to not be a trader.

Every year I have to give the reason I need a traders policy to my broker as my insurers often ask, kind of like an advance business plan.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends in that a trade isn't defined by the money you make , I know a guy who has been making losses for years HMRC hate him though.

I suppose you could go the alternative ltd company route which means make EXACTLY £80 , prep corp tax returns and submit returns to companies house.
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:


I suppose you could go the alternative ltd company route which means make EXACTLY £80 , prep corp tax returns and submit returns to companies house.



That works but still not as easy as just getting the traders policy which people seem to think is all you need to do. Although you might get asked which percentage of each of your business is which then the insurers find out that way.

It really isn't as easy as people think and is truly a minefield.
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