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PostPosted: 15:33 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: And Harley Riders Call Themselves Bikers .... Reply with quote

I went to Preston HD dealership for a planned ride-out today, ok it was raining a little bit but ....
Here is a photo of all the bikes that turned up for it;

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My daughter & I then went to the lower barn at Rivington and look at all the bikes there Very Happy

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PostPosted: 15:40 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHAT!, Ride in the rain you say... are you mad???

Dident you hear?, bikes are for standing around bragging about on a sunny sunday in a carpark... Riding in the rain... Pfft

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PostPosted: 15:43 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

it wasnt long ago that kitty was defending the reputation of harley riders too.

To be fair, anyone who has ever ridden a harley, wouldnt ever want to ride one in the wet. They are shit at the best of times, I reckon in the wet they are pretty dangerous.

Also, although harley riders think the image is 'hard', they are actually soft leisure bikes, so if they wouldnt have fun riding in the wet, why should they. Of course they wouldnt actually admit that they cant ride in the rain, but we know its true.

I bet they are a bitch to clean afterwards.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
it wasnt long ago that kitty was defending the reputation of harley riders too.



I was defending 1 Harley rider, Stevep, sure he would have been out today if he wasn't working
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok you can believe that if you want to
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harleys are shit in the rain because they have forward controls. Riding with forward controls in the rain leads to water going up your trouser legs. Sometimes all the way up, this is unpleasant to say the least.
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha ha.

Harley and bikers two words that don't belong together.

Laughing

One sec, getting my breath.

When I was at the harley garage working if it started raining they would all run inside and steal our coffee and snacks.

Then when it stopped most of them would run out side and chamois there bike Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It never helps, you did this on a Thursday, lots of people are at work...
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

it was a planned run, organised by the club Shocked
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would of been out today and I will be out on Sunday which is my only day off this week regardless of weather.
Never had rain go up inside of leg from forward control good waterproofs dont allow it and as for handeling as before I can and do take on a beat sports bikes and can ground her on both sides on twisties as well.
Nowt wrong with a bit of rain and as for cleaning hot sponge and soap brings her up gleaming.
Have to agree I am not the norm for a Harley rider but if I hadnt switched I would of had my own RIP topic as well.
Seen a awfull lot of mates go and I want to die in bed with a couple of young 18 year old women either side after a good session

A old man can dream Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stevep wrote:
I can and do take on a beat sports bikes and can ground her on both sides on twisties as well.


I could tear you a new one on a ped in the twisties.

What model hd do you have ?
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stevep wrote:

A old man can dream Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


that's all an old man with a Harley can do Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favorite excuse from all Harley riders.

"You just don't get it"

Laughing

Get what ?
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGee wrote:
My favorite excuse from all Harley riders.

"You just don't get it"

Laughing

Get what ?


probably sex Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having witnessed first hand the way Americans ride I can see where you are coming from McGee but you are talking here to someone who has taken a bike over 200mph and thats British mph not American and who has stepped off after losing it at over 150 and walked away on the track.
I can only say a riders limitations are as much as his mind lets him
Yes you will leave me on the straights no dispute but I can and do go deep and keep the power on in corners and make up a lot of ground.
Now put us both on identical bikes and then we could perform and I could show anyone equally powered the back end no problem
Never ever been beaten on the local fast roads round here when I had my own sports bikes.
And I never take any bike anywhere on a trailer or in a truck other than race bikes
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

American and British MPH are the same....

And firstly if I leave you on the straights and brake late by the time I am out of the corner you would just be coming into it no ?

Razz

I can wave my willy all day.

And aye, the yanks destroy me a little on the inside when I see them trailering bikes instead of riding them Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still don't get this 'riding in the rain' thing.

If you ride a bike to work (commute) you will, of necessity, sometimes need to ride in the rain. And if you've got any sanity you'll ride a hack, not a £15k Harley or £8k+ sportsbike.

If your riding is not for work but for pleasure, and you don't get any pleasure from riding in the rain, why would you do it? To 'prove' you're A Biker?

I've ridden countless times in the rain, on good bikes and bad. Now I ride a bike purely for pleasure (it's a toy). Firstly I can't go fast in the rain, it's cold, slippery and dangerous. Secondly I get no pleasure from having to wash all the salty sh!te off my bike (been caught a few times, despite my best efforts).

So I'm not a 'Real Biker'? What a load of tosh. Hot dry days, optimum conditions for riding my bike the way I like to ride it, fast and cranked over.
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

must admit, steve is a brill rider on the lanes, even the ones he doesn't know so well.

Sorry for taking the piss out of you earlier Embarassed
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice of steve to admit that hed be much faster on a proper bike, and that it takes more skill than usual to ride a harley fast

so i guess he is an example of someone deliberately using an inferior machine to highlight his skills

its also possible that he exaggerates his skills, but just to be sociable, i'll take his word
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
it wasnt long ago that kitty was defending the reputation of harley riders too.

To be fair, anyone who has ever ridden a harley, wouldnt ever want to ride one in the wet. They are shit at the best of times, I reckon in the wet they are pretty dangerous.

Also, although harley riders think the image is 'hard', they are actually soft leisure bikes, so if they wouldnt have fun riding in the wet, why should they. Of course they wouldnt actually admit that they cant ride in the rain, but we know its true.

I bet they are a bitch to clean afterwards.


Dangerous in the rain. Fucking nonsense. I ride faster in the rain, or it seems so. Have to clean a bit, I found salt or something on my back wheel. Bucket of water sorted it nicely, and then loads of wd40.
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

goodness didnt realise we had harley riders on bcf, they are all crawling out of the woodwork to defend themselves

it is an impressive sight

id like to take this opportunity to ask harley riders to try an english or japanese cruiser to realise the error of their ways
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have owned/ridden both Yamaha and Kawasaki Cruisers. The VRSCR is better, and unlike with the Kawa I don't have to wage a running battle with rust. The Suzuki M109 was a machine I considered, but the V handles better and doesn't feel as heavy and is easier to filter with. Faster than a fair few in light traffic, I can keep up with supposedly nimbler bikes in the heaviest traffic. I would say that were it not for its fuel consumption, it would make a great commuting bike. Triumph's various cruisers do not interest me. The Rocket III is ungainly looking. What is this anti-HD thing? There are probably more hobby bikers on Triumphs or Ducatis.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

nothing wrong with being a hobby biker

i tend to think of harley riders more as posers

and i personally dont like the way harley's ride

old technology is fine for beer, not for bikes

however i wdnt like to think of myself as a bike snob, so i guess i shd moderate my views a little

harley riders are people too
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stevep wrote:
and as for handeling as before I can and do take on a beat sports bikes and can ground her on both sides on twisties as well.

Maybe you can 'take on' other sports bikes, but any kind of serious cruisers I've seen ground out footboards way, way, too quickly to be competition for anyone with some skill on a half decent sports or other bike. Similarly, braking and accelerating hard tends to be a bit haphazard in my experience.
The only big cruiser I've tried to ride at all seriously ground out on the first roundabout I got to.
I was following someone who hadn't ridden a bike for 8 years and this was the first 'corner' of the ride.

Personally for fun I prefer to go for a low powered bike that handles well, so that I keep a big safety margin for the road - as opposed to a low powered bike that I would have to keep near the edge of traction (ie stuff grounding out etc) to ride at a speed that I felt was acceptable for the roads.

I would agree that rider skill does play a big part.
However, I believe a lot of Harleys seriously reduce the area where the machine is the limitation, not the rider.

(I forget if I've had this 'discussion' with you in the past, if so, feel free to refer to my last post!)
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

A VRSCR has 121 bhp (at the crank) out of 1.1 watercooled litres. While not absolutely cutting edge, the revolution engine has a fine sound under acceleration and shifts me about quick enough. Nothing wrong with hobby bikers or bikes (the best second hand buy imo). A man might find himself funding a wife and three children or whatever, bikes have to take second place then. Just as long as a rider conducts himself well on the road, he should be respected.
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