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Cigaro
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 11 Jan 2008    Post subject: Eh? Reply with quote

Saw This today.

What a load of old cack.

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Almost 500 adults and children are treated in hospitals and clinics every week for the effects of cannabis.


That's plainly bollocks. Who ever needs medical attention after smoking cannabis? Do they actually expect anyone to believe that?
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 11 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even after an all day session including a shitload of drinking and continual smoking I never needed medical assistance. I just needed Goldeneye and MarioKart on the Nintendo 64.

I believe you need to smoke a spliff 2km long to OD on dope.
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 11 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

500 a week is a bit OTT Confused In that case we should ll know someone who has been in hospital for it, I don't apart from a chest infection years ago that turned me off the stuff.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 11 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damofo D.O.G. wrote:
I just needed Goldeneye and MarioKart on the Nintendo 64.


Dude nothing could beat a 4 player dm on facility. Mr. Green
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Its pronounced Jixxer!
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 11 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hate weed, turns most people I've known to smoke it into complete wasters.

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PostPosted: 18:43 - 11 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Hate weed, turns most people I've known to smoke it into complete wasters.

T


Ditto on that one. Thats just the poeple I have known also. I only tried it a few years ago and then grew up. Hate the bloody sight and smell of it.
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 11 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like many things in life, weed is fine in moderation. I've smoked occasionally for decades. Never understood people who spliff up on a daily basis or smoke loads per day. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 11 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its probably like alcohol in moderation its fine.

But some people might have alergic reactions or bad reactions to it, but alas I am in agreement with Tobes here.
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weed gave me problems. Had depersonalization and anxiety - have to take anti-depressants and cognitive behavioural therapy Cool
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGee wrote:
Damofo D.O.G. wrote:
I just needed Goldeneye and MarioKart on the Nintendo 64.


Dude nothing could beat a 4 player dm on facility. Mr. Green


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PostPosted: 01:04 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Hate weed, turns most people I've known to smoke it into complete wasters.

T


There are exceptions, but I think generally it turns people a bit zombie like and have fairly significant social issues, apart from among stoned pals. Also hate the smell of the stuff, just something horrible about it.
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PostPosted: 01:05 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Re: Eh? Reply with quote

TheBassJunky wrote:
That's plainly bollocks. Who ever needs medical attention after smoking cannabis? Do they actually expect anyone to believe that?

Dunno, but it's a reason for decrimilization as taking it out of the hands of criminals and into controlled outlets would mean people knew more about what they were buying and children wouldn't be able to get hold of it as easily. Would expect a fair number of those treated in hospitals are something to do with contaminated cannabis which is something else which would solved by getting rid of prohibition.
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PostPosted: 01:06 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

markcatate wrote:
Weed gave me problems. Had depersonalization and anxiety - have to take anti-depressants and cognitive behavioural therapy Cool

Wasn't that coke? Confused
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
markcatate wrote:
Weed gave me problems. Had depersonalization and anxiety - have to take anti-depressants and cognitive behavioural therapy Cool

Wasn't that coke? Confused


And all the other stuff.
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PostPosted: 02:47 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

And all the other stuff... so it wasn't weed then.


What is the real dangerous drug?

1220 binge-drinking Britons hospitalised each day
By staff writers

January 11, 2008 04:21pm

BRITISH hospitals are treating more than 1220 serious alcohol-related cases every day, a newspaper has reported.

According to The Daily Mail, on any given day there are 1222 separate cases of alcoholic liver disease, intoxication, alcohol-related mental or behaviour disorders, or alcohol-related injury in hospitals.

British Department of Health figures indicate 160,815 people were admitted to casualty wards for alcohol-related conditions last year.

The figure has skyrocketed by 99 percent since 2000 and the number of patients seen by consultants for alcohol-related disease has soared by 95 percent, the paper reported.

Among under-18s, there has been a 40 percent increase in hospital admissions in the last seven years, including serious liver problems, injuries from fighting and young people needing their stomachs pumped.

The increase coincides with the relaxation of licensing laws in 2005 which created 24-hour drinking, the paper reported.

The figures put pressure on British Prime Minister Gordon Brown to overhaul the Licensing Act.

Ian Gilmore, president of the Royal College of Physicians, said it shows the current measures to stem alcohol-related health damage aren’t working.

“That is why we have been looking for real evidence-based ways of reducing the burden of health damage for alcohol misuse, namely tackling price and availability,” Prof Gilmore said.

However, the Brown Government is expected to keep the Licensing Act in place with only a few minor tweaks, and is instead planning to target under-age drinkers and put an end to cheap supermarket offers.


https://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23037778-23109,00.html
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PostPosted: 08:49 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
markcatate wrote:
Weed gave me problems. Had depersonalization and anxiety - have to take anti-depressants and cognitive behavioural therapy Cool

Wasn't that coke? Confused


Yeh a mix anxiety from chang and depersonalization from cannabis
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cant really compare the hospitalisation figures for alcohol to those of canabis. How may people in the uk drink, and how many smoke weed?
Drug use is certainly more widespead than it was in the 80's in my opinion. When I were a lad Rolling Eyes there were only odd pubs around here where you might find someone smoking a joint. These days they find traces of coke (not the fizzy stuff) in most town centre pubs. I'm sure in another 20 years it'll be worse again.
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is though, that if you smoke too much dope, you NEVER have to go to hospital.

It's just unheard of.

Unless you get cancer, of course.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know why people keep reading the results of medical research statistics and paying attention to them.

The amount of statistics that say smoking/eating/drinking is bad for you ... and then there was one last week (which I had to hide from Andy, LOL) which says that NOT drinking can be detrimental to your health.

Medical arguments and statistics are just another thing for the newspapers to distract us and give us something to discuss, and hence take our mind off what's really happening in the world.
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 12 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBassJunky wrote:
The thing is though, that if you smoke too much dope, you NEVER have to go to hospital.

But, someone goes to hospital, and they're asked what drugs they've taken. Alcohol and cannabis? It gets records as someone attending hospital because of alcohol and as someone attending hospital because of cannabis. Willing to bet a large amount of those 500 people each week weren't just using cannabis.

Plus, little shits see in the papers and on the news about how this new super skunk is addictive and mentally damaging. So they blame their crimes on it when in actual fact it's just because they're little shits. Give people the idea that cannabis might be to blame and suddenly there's an easy answer! Inexperienced users have a panic attack or a whitey, now they think they're mentally ill or have schizophrenia thanks to all the brainwashing propaganda. If you don't get on with cannabis then don't smoke it, it's that simple. Smile


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You cant really compare the hospitalisation figures for alcohol to those of canabis.

Yes you can, I just did. Wink

Brown is getting bullshit press releases made so that he has some support when he ignores the reports and reclassifies cannabis back to class B like he's said he'll do. Source.

We're getting all the stuff in papers telling us about how dangerous cannabis is and how it's responsible for XXX hospital admission, and that is reason for why reclassification would be beneficial. Yet alcohol is a far worse drug is terms of effects on soceity, how come they're not talking of reclassifying that?
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGee wrote:
Dude nothing could beat a 4 player dm on facility. Mr. Green


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I still have three N64's - one with goldeneye, one with mariokart and one with perfect dark plugged in.

Fired them up a few weeks ago. Still astonishingly good.
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PostPosted: 01:25 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 09:16 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
The amount of statistics that say smoking/eating/drinking is bad for you ... and then there was one last week (which I had to hide from Andy, LOL) which says that NOT drinking can be detrimental to your health.


I saw that! Some European scientists or something.
This is just the kind of shit I don’t like though, I really really am a strong believer in natural selection. Let it be…..
If your 18 year old boy dies from alcohol poisoning, it’s not because you’re bad parents, this child is a ‘div kid’ simple.

We go out drinking and when we have a good time we laugh, shout, dance etc etc. The next morning the demons come out in your head and many of us will say ‘oh my god, never again, I’m dying’. Repeat 1000 times.
This is what many class A drugs do to you, but with not quite as painful after effects.
The anticipation of cocaine is something close to when you were around 15-16 and you find your first porn mag as a lad.
Getting on some good ‘white’ is, albeit for a lot shorter time scale, much more interesting and uplifting than lots of Stella.
The morning after isn’t always zipadee doo da, but usually your evening was memorable and amusing.

All of them really follow the same sort of pattern.

The anticipation, the first hit, the positive effects. Now at this point you could go home, you’ve had say 4-5 pints, chill out & savour the effects of your chosen drug. Or you could peak, go a little further, time and time again.
This is often the case with class A drugs. It isn’t because these drugs are…“Nasty and addictive” it’s merely because they’re so fucking good.
During peaks I’ve seen people do all sorts, drink being the worst. One lad I know jumped on the bench in the back garden of a very busy pub, being a prat, he fell backwards and off the wall, this wall was several feet high and he hit the ground like a sack of spuds. Ambulance called, stayed in over night with cuts and bruises maybe mild concussion.
I’ve seen boarder line insanity on cocaine, I had a feeling this guy wasn’t all too stable before he’d even touched the stuff and again, this applies to all drugs. If you aren’t mentally capable of keeping it together, be a good sport and fuck off.

Weed can lead to an infinite amount of direction, you cannot say weed just creates wasters because there is evidence in front of your eyes everyday. There isn’t many albums in your collection for example that you adore where by the artist has been stone sober throughout their career. My mum for example would quite literally cover her ears at any mention that David Bowie for example was not so spaced out on all sorts of drugs which aided him in making several uber cool albums.
Your average Joe who smokes weed will be subjected to quite a bit of ear ache from the people who frown upon weed smokers, it’s not nice, and does really make you feel like shit for having a bit of pleasure. Ganja is a long way off drink, hence the classification, it’s a drug I will dabble in my whole life no doubt. Sometimes it makes a change from the average weekend, smoke up, chill out, talk crap with mates, play Golden eye 64 (Proximity mines only – level, Archive – character, Odd Job) and wake up the next day with no ill effects.
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damofo D.O.G. wrote:
and one with perfect dark plugged in.

Fired them up a few weeks ago. Still astonishingly good.


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PostPosted: 18:35 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somebody work out a way to play Goldeneye on project64 online.

There would only be one word....Epic Shocked
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