Nocturnal Motivation...

Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

This is a weird one.... I'm like 99% of britons, I want to get fit, I want to get stuff done and I want to do this that n the other, but I, like 99% of others Laughing

lack the physical motivation to do it. I want it, I have all the motivation mentally in terms of what it would achieve etc.. i.e want to get fit to improve my stunt riding.. so I can see the benefits etc just can't seem to get myself to actually do anyrthing about it.

Anyways, point of this post, I seem to be very nocturnal.... at night I feel much more motivated to do something, at night I feel up for going for a run or sorting out something I've been putting off for ages etc... but it's too late to actually do anything about so the motivation is pointless and wasted..... then in the morning I feel knackered again and can barely be arsed to get out of bed let alone train/do stuff and by time I get home from work I just end up sat in front of PC until bed time.

Is anyone else like this or been like this and know how to change it.... before anyone says just do stuff at night, I can't cos I start work at 7:30 in the mornings so can't exactly start something at midnight Laughing

I think that having sleep problems and always being knackered doesn't help at all.
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craigie b · Citizen Smith Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Karma :

Force yerself Laughing

When I was training for P Company it would not be unusual for me to be doing a 6 mile run at 12 at night. It may look odd to others but I'm of the opinion if its good for you then fuck what others think.

MaybeGuy · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Karma :

i would do it, but i feel like a pillock running Very Happy

im the same, apart from i actually get off my arse at about 2am to go for a run when theres no cars about.
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Work nights! Thumbs Up

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kitty kat · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Karma :

Try forcing yourself to go for a run or whatever as soon as you get home from work, you will be more relaxed later on at night and will probably sleep better.
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crazymotorbik... · Nearly there... Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Karma :

Hey,

I was like that. Used to always have the ideas about getting fit but never actually having the motivation to do it!

Then one night after work, about 10pm, i forced myself to get off my lazy arse and go running. Once you get the first one out of the way you feel you can do it again. Once you get into the routine you will find that your motivation will grow.

Shaun.

Jaloopa · Brolly Dolly Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Karma :

https://www.stanford.edu/~dement/delayed.html

Does that describe your symptoms? Not sure if it will help, but I found it reassuring to know I have a recognised syndrome.
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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

Done some more reading on DSPS, and it sounds 100% like me... I'm going to go see the Dr next week or so to find out more... will have to speak to my dad as well, he won't stop going on at me that I "can't sleep" because I eat the wrong stuff or I do this wrong or I drink too much fizzy drinks (considering I gave fizzy drinks up about 3 months ago now................................) would be good to have a recognised problem confirmed by Dr, rather than insomnia which my dad seems to think is easily solvable... it won't change anything, but it might shut him up a bit Laughing

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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

I went through a phase of not going to bed until 3-4am back when I was 16. Used to sleep through to 12pm easily enough.

When I started my first year of sixth form, I found it hard to get up in the mornings.

I sorted it myself by not drinking caffeine after 4PM.

Not watching TV or going on the computer after 11pm.

Having a relaxing bath.

Hot chocolate/horlicks works really well as well, though I expect you have probably tried this before.
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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

Got any worries or anything?

I used to worry a lot about money and coursework and it stopped me going to sleep.

I know this isn't the best medicinal way however of late I been struggling to get to sleep again, mainly due to my rude housemates who are constantly noisy, so a couple of Strongbows sends me off to snoresville.
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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

Visitor Q · $25 whore Joined: 30 Apr 2004 Karma :

Bless you all.

Its simply the standard diurnal rythm shifting out of sync. Circadian rythms are NEARLY 24 hours. In nocturnal its 23 hours, diurnal 25 (usually).

Human entrainment is light.

Turn the lights off and force yourself to bed early if it bothers you. Why do you think they have lights on/off in prisons/military?

Normally we'd do everything in the daylight while we could see. Ie 6-10 summer, 9-5 winter.
Ive got an exam that (if i could be arsed) id have to learn all this crap, choosing other topics instead from it. But i know enough about it.

In short, if you keep an animal in completely DD (Dark:Dark) cycles it will eventually free run, and its subjective mid day with advance an hour every day. So it will be most active at 12pm, then 1pm, then 2pm etc. Nocturnal animals are the opposite, losing an hour a day.

If you want to sleep better, get up earlier, get in the sun, go to bed early in the dark. FORCE YOURSELF.
Usually aided by forcing yourself to do exercise in the day.

At present my rythms are fucked, and im not going to sleep til 7 or getting up till 3. Should be fun with a 9 oclock exam friday.

Insomnia is always exacerbated by nothing to get up for, hence later sleep, so later arousal, so later sleep. Constant cycle.

Just force yourself to do SOME exercise, FORCE yourself to get into bed ~12 with the lights off. FORCE yourself to get up earlier. After a few weeks it will sort itself out. Alot harder to do this time of year, and if you actually have a social life.
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TheDonUK · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Karma :

Im the same but with academic deadlines and coursework...

Tonight is the perfect example, For the last week or so i have had an essay to do, its due tomorow at 3PM, its 2:19AM now, Im waiting for that motivational surge, and i still have 90% of it to write...

I procrastinate horribly, i would say it is the most serious flaw in my life, i know i have to get on with it, mentally i know exactly what i have to do but when it comes to translating that into actions IE writing/reading i always seem to find something else to do, like posting on BCF or watching videos...

MementoMori · World Chat Champion Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Karma :

Yeah I can relate to the above posts.

Nearly got kicked out of college cos I wasn't turning up to my morning lessons, just couldn't drag my arse out of bed. This was exacerbated by my absolutely god awful diet of norralot leaving me with barely any energy whatsoever.

These days, I only need to get up early twice a week, as I work at the SPCA. I'm just grateful that it's a volunteer organisation and so my constant lateness isn't really something they can complain about. They're just thankful I turn up at all.

This is one of the reasons I'm reluctant to apply for jobs that start in the morning, which drastically decreases my job choices. Rolling Eyes

Tried doing loads of stuff about it, including hot baths, warm milk, horlicks, staying up all night and the next day, forcing myself into bed, moving my alarm clocks out of reach, drinking loads of water before bed time... Bah. Nothing. It's beautifully easy to just switch my alarm off and go back to sleep for a few more hours.

Sparks, if you do figure out something that works, it'd be good if you post it up on here. Thumbs Up

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MaybeGuy · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Karma :

may this be some inspiration to you all... (ill probably give up in a few days of this)

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=136393&highlight=
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Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

Ben. · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Karma :

i think im fucked to be honest.
well evidence enough im awake at 4.30 am Laughing

all the ways to get back on course i cant do Crying or Very sad

fuck

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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

Bonny, I have no idea what you just said Laughing

but for what its worth.. I've been like this for many, many, many years (since I was a kid and it's never changed) and I have been working daily for 5 years now with early mornings ALL the time, I am also in an active job so am physically active all day every day (maybe not enough to get me super fit, but "enough") so I see no reason why I should be like this.... I can't see it being a problem with sun and darkness because I am usually in the light alll day then in the dark at evenings/night if that makes sense, so if you mean get to associate dark with sleep then already am?
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konsoli · Traffic Copper Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Karma :

just sign up to the gym, nobody else seems to care if you're overweight, most others are too, there's just always one or two pricks that think they have the muscles of arnold schwarzenegger, which is hilarious.

It's good fun as well