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 Posted: 00:58 - 28 Jan 2008 Post subject: Staphylococcus aureus bacteria questions... |
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Specifically Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (yes, I have MRSA* ), though I believe the resistant bit shouldn't make any difference to the properties.
How long will it stay alive on surfaces for? Similar for frabrics and anything else?
Will cold kill it off, if so what temperatures does it like/not like?
I've been given various things to try and get rid of it and been told to change bed clothes every night for the five nights up to the operation etc. I was wondering if there's anything else I should be careful of?
* Ok, it's only a 'colonisation' on my skin, not through an infection and it seems unlikely it would cause any problems even if it did get into the wounds left when they slice me open next Friday. |
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| Jon B wrote: | Staphylococcus Aureus is present in your body from year dot, just an excess amount. Usually it sits in your throat area.
Unlucky on getting MRSA though. |
its likes nothing more than somewhere warm and sweaty and the nose aint just the only place it likes. Scratching your spuds then picking your nose will spread it of course. You have been warned!
Its on 1/3 of the population and only comes to light when they are screened in hospitals pre procedure.
Its not the killer bug in the news.
The topical wash, gargles and ointments work but it is best opractice to have clean linen / clothes every day to prevent any recontamination.
This is taken from our Trust policy:
| Quote: | 5.0 INTRODUCTION
Staphylococcus aureus is a common bacterium. Approximately 20 to 50% of the population are carriers of it. It may be carried in the nose or on the skin without causing any problem to the carrier. However, it has the potential to cause disease, particularly in vulnerable hospitalised patient(s) where it can cause serious infections. Meticillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus is a strain of Staphylococcus aureus which is resistant to most frequently used antibiotics, Meticillin being one such drug. Hence the term Meticillin Resistant Staphylococcus aureus.
The following is a short summary of the main properties of MRSA.
• Staphylococcus aureus is a bacterium which normally lives in (i.e. colonises) the nose, throat, skin of almost half the population. It can occasionally cause infection, generally of the skin, such as wound infection or boils.
• Both MRSA and Meticillin Sensitive Staphylococcus aureus (MSSA) cause a similar pattern of infections. However, due to their multi-resistant nature, infections caused by MRSA are more difficult to treat.
• A major mode of transmission is via unwashed or inadequately washed hands of staff but it can also occur from contaminated items. The most important way to reduce spread is by good hand hygiene and environmental hygiene.
• Epidemic MRSA are strains with an unexplained exceptional ability to spread widely. The commonest epidemic strains currently are ERMSA-15 and ERMSA-16.
Although MRSA are increasingly common and are reported in the community, in nursing and residential homes and in Southend Hospital, there is no case for inactivity. The aim is to minimise the risk that MRSA pose for the vulnerable patient.
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| Quote: | 15.0 LINEN
15.1 Bed linen should be changed daily. Dirty linen must be disposed of immediately into a white linen bag and placed in the dirty utility hold for collection.
15.2 Linen from patients with MRSA is not classified as infectious. The temperatures in the laundry process retain holding temperatures above 80 degrees Centigrade which are adequate to eliminate MRSA. However, it is still necessary to handle this linen with care and to wear protective clothing, i.e. disposable apron and latex free gloves.
15.3 If the MRSA patient is also suffering from another transmissible disease, e.g. Clostridium difficile, Norovirus, the linen must be classified as infectious and be placed in a red plastic laundry bag with an inner pink alginate liner. |
| Quote: | TREATMENT
1. Nursing care
1. Use 2% Mupirocin Nasal Ointment (Bactroban). Apply to the anterior nasal nares 3 times a day for 5 days. Gently pinch the sides of the nose together after application to ensure even distribution of the ointment.
2. Use Stellisept body wash undiluted. This should be applied daily for 5 days all over the body, left for 3 minutes contact time before bathing or showering, ensure that the patient is dried thoroughly.
3. The hair should be washed with the Stellisept on the 1st and 5th days of the regime.
4. 2% Mupirocin wound ointment may be applied to small infected wounds. Large wounds should be cleaned regularly with aqueous Chlorhexidine 0.5% or water at room temperature.
5. The full body screen should be repeated 2 days after the end of the 5 day treatment. If the screen is negative, continue to the end of the treatment protocol. If positive seek the advice of the Infection Control Nurse.
6. Each patient will be individually assessed by the Infection Control Nurse for the directorate as relapses may occur especially if the patient is receiving antibiotic therapy.
7. Patients should never be taken out of isolation without preliminary discussion with the Infection Control Department. |
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I wouldnt worry about it, my mum caught MRSA. After its "gone" you will be left a "carrier" of the virus but it wont affect you. About 6 out of 10 of the population are carriers.
AS long as its kept under control it will be fine.... the one this its done to my mum is stop her leg healing. (she got her heel removed).
She gets a special wash to use and we need to clean down the house everyday etc until its gone.
Shes in the hospital at the moment for a different thing but she has been isolated incase it spreads. ____________________ Suzuki SV 650 (blue of course!)  |
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Biker_chick and Whosthedaddy:
At the moment I'm only a 'carrier', I am not infected.
It is possible to remove it completely, but as whosthedaddy suggests, you can’t be sure it’s gone completely. And even if I could be, I could get it again a couple of weeks after from someone else and be back to square one. Apparently the standard procedure for checking for it (I don’t know if they will bother with me) is to do three tests and separate time and if they all show up negative the balance of probability suggests that worst case it’s below detectable levels.
However it would be ‘nice’ to know that I’ve got rid of it this time.
Marjay:
I’m sure my carpets are dirty .
If the carpet and chairs are an issue, then also I expect will be many other clothes I own and such like, thus looking for info on how long it will last in what conditions.
As mentioned above, it’s not really a big issue as I’m pretty likely to come in contact with someone who has it in the future anyway. |
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Marjay:
I’m sure my carpets are dirty  .
If the carpet and chairs are an issue, then also I expect will be many other clothes I own and such like, thus looking for info on how long it will last in what conditions.
As mentioned above, it’s not really a big issue as I’m pretty likely to come in contact with someone who has it in the future anyway. |
Yeah but if they are saying bedclothes, then surely carpets and chairs are the same really. They get washed less often, but are just as likely to harbor the infection. Clothes, on the other hand do get washed, and on a hot wash you're likely to kill off most of the nasty stuff. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F; Cheap project: CBR900RR FireBlade
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Chairs and carpets should have had fairly minimal contact with me; ie arms and hands only generally. My current ‘ergonomic’ computer chair is probably quite good as it hasn’t got a back or arms.
Though, if I can find any evidence that it’s an issue, then I’ll see what I can do.
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Dust is made up of a variety of things from blowing dirt, bacteria, pollen, pollutants, moulds, hair, decomposing insects, fibres, dryer lint, insulation, dust mites and their excrement, and mostly, skin flakes that humans shed.
So although they haven't been in contact with your body, the skin content in household dust may be an issue. I don't know this for sure, but me being me, I can't help but add this
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To tell the truth, I just want to see G clean his house!
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Was searching for something else and came upon this, so thought I'd offer some closure, in case someone comes to it later trying to search for the same things I was.
As has been suggested, MRSA doesn't have any more harmful affects than 'SA' which is present on the skin of 1 in 3 people.
A normal fit-healthy person is unlikely to get infected by this bacteria if they have a cut or similar.
The figures vary a lot, but as many as 1 in 20 (or a lot less depending on where you read) have MRSA on their skin.
The only real difference between the two is that you can't use the normal drugs to get rid of MRSA. There are drugs available, but the NHS is cautious of using for worry of even stronger strains developing.
I did the bed clothes thing, covered myself in the itchy antibiotic when showering and wasn't tested again after the operation.
I requested a test myself and this came back negative.
From what the surgeon had said, I got the impression it may have only been in my nose that MRSA was present.
Of course it's possible that I will catch it again of other people that have it, but I know a week after the operation I was 'clean' at least.
For anyone that's missed out, the operation went ok* and a year on my foot/leg's pretty much ok, definitely 'usable'.
* Apart from one of the sew-ey people stabbing themselves with a needle, for which I got a 'free' HIV/Hep test, which came out negative, which is nice. |
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Possibly, It was just so shocking.... Damaged my fragile little mind.  ____________________ Funny, I used to hate being spanked as a child!
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