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MarJay
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 04 Feb 2008    Post subject: Parts prices: Grrrrr! Reply with quote

Hi there,

I'm currently trying to source a left hand switchgear set for my '02 blade. As you can imagine I've tried breakers yards, and David silver etc and not had much luck.

David silver have quoted me a price, but its £90 inc delivery Shocked.

I mean, £90 for three switches and a bit of plastic? How do these people sleep at night? They said that honda would charge me £85 ex vat and delivery and their discount cound get it for me for £79 ex vat and delivery.

So David silvers aren't making a bomb on it I'd guess, but Honda?? It makes my blood boil. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 04 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well what can you do.

Essentially dealers make fuck all out of vehicle sales, I mean nothing. If they didn't get rebates, then the sale would be loss making. That's just on the cost of the vehicle mind, not including all the other costs of running a business - employees, rent etc.

Margins on parts and service have to be high to support the very low prices fo vehicles.

Parts margins are in the region of 50% - so that part costs Honda £45, they sell to you at £90.

Companies who specialise in the manufacture of pattern parts (eg EBC brakes spring to mind), can charge a lower price as they don't have to support selling cheap vehicles.

Unfortunately switchgear won't fall into this category, so sadly you are a bit fucked.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 04 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ebay...

Here Starting at £7.99

Here £32.50 buy it now or best offer

Or here £16.90
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 04 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
Ebay...

Here Starting at £7.99

Here £32.50 buy it now or best offer

Or here £16.90


Very industrious of you, but they are all from pre 2000 bikes, and I need one for a 2002. If you can tell me for 100% certain that they are the same, then I'll buy one. Certainly that last one is different as it only has high and dipped beam, whereas my bike has sidelights, dipped and high beam positions on the switch.

The First one looks similar, but I can't be sure the connectors are the same, and I'm not going to tart about resoldering them. Not to mention the locating pegs on the bar...

Sorry, that probably came out a bit harsher than I intended, but I've just crashed my lovely new bike and aren't in a very charitable mood! Wink
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 04 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worries Karma

Just saw them and thought of you. Thumbs Up

No idea if they will fit or not. As a couple of them are breakers try giving them a ring or drop them a question to see if they know Thumbs Up
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 04 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done all the free part searches on the web. I need to do a pay one now ( as they claim to contact more breakers!)

Or I need to call David Silvers and cough up. Sad
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 04 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of the day you're probably better off coughing up for the new part as 2nd hand parts may have an unknown history or are broke anyways.

Or you could buy another 02 blade and break it for parts Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 04 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damofo D.O.G. wrote:
Parts margins are in the region of 50%...


Not for dealers they're not.

MarJay, do you need it desperately? If not just wait until one comes up on ebay.
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

McJamweasel wrote:
Damofo D.O.G. wrote:
Parts margins are in the region of 50%...


Not for dealers they're not.


They are in all the dealers I have ever had experience of. Gross margin we're talking here.
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PostPosted: 00:30 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

if only we were all so wise and helpful
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
if only we were all so wise and helpful

One day grass hopper, one day. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

XlonewolfX wrote:
You earn money, then you spend money, if you broke it, and it cant be fixed then you need to replace it. Just get it bought without crying over how much it is then you'll fix your bike faster.


Now I remember why I set you to enemy you little... Evil or Very Mad

One day, you'll damage a bike, or one will get stolen or something and then you'll understand what I'm going through.

Unlike you I don't have infinite money, and I strongly think that £90 for a few switches is a bit overpriced. I have a mortgage to pay etc and so I don't think that I can be lectured by a know-all-know-nothing 19 year old like you.
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

a bit harsh marjay

He just read the thread and wanted to get involved and the fact that he had nothing useful to say didnt stop him.

Not quite a lecture.

19 year olds have feelings too.

If nothing else, he bumped up the thread so someone useful might see it.
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
a bit harsh marjay

He just read the thread and wanted to get involved and the fact that he had nothing useful to say didnt stop him.

Not quite a lecture.

19 year olds have feelings too.

If nothing else, he bumped up the thread so someone useful might see it.


Fair enough, but he's been getting on my tits for a long while now, and as I said, when something like this happens to you, it kinda angries up the blood, ya know?

But I do find it offensive that he thinks I should 'just spend the money' like I'm just being tight fisted.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah MarJay, loosen those purse strings you tight bastard. So you bin your bike on the day you bought it - who cares? Just sack it off, let it rot in your garage and go and buy a 2008 blade.

Jeez, its only money. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damofo D.O.G. wrote:
Yeah MarJay, loosen those purse strings you tight bastard. So you bin your bike on the day you bought it - who cares? Just sack it off, let it rot in your garage and go and buy a 2008 blade.

Jeez, its only money. Rolling Eyes


Technically it was the day after... Wink
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

marjay you binned your bike on the first day you got it ?

thats embarassing

at the same time it must feel shit so i feel for you Smile

no wonder you are so easily worked up on the subject
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
marjay you binned your bike on the first day you got it ?

thats embarassing

at the same time it must feel shit so i feel for you Smile

no wonder you are so easily worked up on the subject

Now thats taking the piss...
Any way, heres a thought, get the part number and see if you can cross reference it from a different bike, i can use a wide range of parts for my FZR off alot of bikes, as most bikes use the same parts etc.
Get the part number and find one of a shitter less sought after part from a common bike, the price then being lower.
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just spoken to my parts man at the local Honda dealer, the part is unique to that bike Sad

£81 is the cheapest he could manage.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davo wrote:
I've just spoken to my parts man at the local Honda dealer, the part is unique to that bike Sad

£81 is the cheapest he could manage.

Ow well that fucks that idea, Found this, dam sight cheaper than £81. Would that not fit?
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try https://www.startright.co.uk/

They are a generational shop in Leeds and they have an online shop. They might be able to help.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davo wrote:
I've just spoken to my parts man at the local Honda dealer, the part is unique to that bike Sad

£81 is the cheapest he could manage.


Thought as much. Cheers though Davo! Smile
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 05 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

As lonewolf suggests - might be worth looking at bodging a different one on. You can get some pretty professional looking loom-clips you could use.

Personally, as I said before, I'd just get one of these.
https://www.hondaparts.co.uk/954reapirkit.htm
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