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c_dug
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: so i took my exhausts off... Reply with quote
turned them upside down and out came about half a litre of petrol and oil, from each one! that'l explain why it wouldnt start, feck knows how it got there though!

any ideas?

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PostPosted: 21:22 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
What do the plugs look like?
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
The one legged space pigeons put it there.

Cheers for finding it though matey, u have thwarted their plan of world domination

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PostPosted: 21:32 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
CaNsA_temporary wrote:
The one legged space pigeons put it there.

Cheers for finding it though matey, u have thwarted their plan of world domination

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wtf?????

and the plugs were oily but i think that is from repetitivley being kicked over but not having the back pressure to fire, it was effectivly fluid locking the engine in the end!

I got fed up and decided to move onto fixing the small hole in the exhause and out gushes alot of petrol and oil so i took off the 2nd one and more comes out of that Confused it was running fine a few days before so i dont know how it got in there and especialy how that much got in there!

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PostPosted: 21:44 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
CaNsA_temporary wrote:
The one legged space pigeons put it there.

Cheers for finding it though matey, u have thwarted their plan of world domination

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Bet you'd of appreciated a reply like that in one of your many question/I'm getting threads. Razz

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PostPosted: 21:44 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Float leaking, do you leave it with the tap on?
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Usually, it happens where a fuel tap is left on and a float valve leaks in the carbs. Fuel over-flow in the carb and fills up in the crank case then gets pumped into the exhaust when you crank the engine.
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If you have fuel in the cases the oil will be as thin and as much use as a lubricant as piss. You need to drain it all off.
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
1930 Ariel wrote:
If you have fuel in the cases the oil will be as thin and as much use as a lubricant as piss. You need to drain it all off.


Both his bikes listed in his sig are 2-strokes Wal.
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
My mistake.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 11 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Geri wrote:


Both his bikes listed in his sig are 2-strokes Wal.


It also says the TDR250 now works? Confused Wink

Sump could still be full of fuel . . . undiluted fuel . . . . BOOM!
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well it did work before Laughing the float bowl might be stuck, the carb was overflowing but it seemed to stop, i guess it may have stuck again Confused

The tap doesnt have an off setting just on/reserve/the other one that i dont remember the name of for putting fluel strait into the float bowls.

I dont think its the float anyway because both exhausts were full but only one float was stuck, im off college tomorrow so ill get the pipes sorted in the morning and then get them back on in the evening and see if she runs, then ill leave it over night and check the pipes in the morning and see whats happened, fingers crosses they're both empty.

cheers for the help so far Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 01:33 - 12 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
exactly the same happened to my rd before it got stolen, happened after i fould the plugs and couldnt start it but kept trying Laughing

left a nasty smelly stain on my jeans Embarassed
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mattish wrote:
exactly the same happened to my rd before it got stolen, happened after i fould the plugs and couldnt start it but kept trying Laughing

left a nasty smelly stain on my jeans Embarassed



Snap on the situation, that must be it then, i left it on tickover for about 20mins and it coughed and sputtered and stopped and it wouldnt go again no matter how many times i tried, must have been slowly filling up the pipes! glad to hear it doesnt sound more serious.

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dont know why i didnt put this is the workshop section Laughing
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PostPosted: 04:19 - 12 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
c_dug wrote:
well it did work before Laughing the float bowl might be stuck, the carb was overflowing but it seemed to stop, i guess it may have stuck again Confused

The tap doesnt have an off setting just on/reserve/the other one that i dont remember the name of for putting fluel strait into the float bowls.

I dont think its the float anyway because both exhausts were full but only one float was stuck, im off college tomorrow so ill get the pipes sorted in the morning and then get them back on in the evening and see if she runs, then ill leave it over night and check the pipes in the morning and see whats happened, fingers crosses they're both empty.

cheers for the help so far Thumbs Up

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Prime postion?

Take it its a vacuum tap. So very doubtfull that this is the problem as it wont leak unless its in the Prime Postion.
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 12 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
c_dug wrote:
mattish wrote:
exactly the same happened to my rd before it got stolen, happened after i fould the plugs and couldnt start it but kept trying Laughing

left a nasty smelly stain on my jeans Embarassed



Snap on the situation, that must be it then, i left it on tickover for about 20mins and it coughed and sputtered and stopped and it wouldnt go again no matter how many times i tried, must have been slowly filling up the pipes! glad to hear it doesnt sound more serious.

c_dug

dont know why i didnt put this is the workshop section Laughing



quality bike there,right colour aswell Thumbs Up ,most likley culprit is worn float needle seals/and /or leaking O rings on the float needle seats.the fuel taps are vacuum operated but once the seals get old they tend to weep fuel,after that your relying on the float needles to stop the fuel filling the engine.
i'm sure i have a set of the float needle seat O rings around somewhere(you can only get the matched full set from yam),shout if you need them.
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quality bike there,right colour aswell Thumbs Up ,most likley culprit is worn float needle seals/and /or leaking O rings on the float needle seats.the fuel taps are vacuum operated but once the seals get old they tend to weep fuel,after that your relying on the float needles to stop the fuel filling the engine.
i'm sure i have a set of the float needle seat O rings around somewhere(you can only get the matched full set from yam),shout if you need them.


yep Thumbs Up everybody knows the black ones are quickest Laughing

im about to head out to the bike now and sort the holes in the exahaust's, the stuff im using takes at least 8 hours to set so ill have stick the pipes back on tonight and see what the results are tomorrow Thumbs Up if i do need the o rings ill PM you, thanks for the offer Thumbs Up

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