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PostPosted: 16:13 - 19 Feb 2008    Post subject: Car brake pads Reply with quote

Due to this happening (see below) ... I need a new run around until I do my bike test at the end of march.

So test drove an N reg Vectra today and its all in good nic (for a car that done 110,000 miles) he wants 550 for it but the brakes definately need doing. Was going to offer 450 in light of this.

My question is how much does it cost on average to get a garage to change the pads?

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PostPosted: 16:17 - 19 Feb 2008    Post subject: Re: Car brake pads Reply with quote

DidierD wrote:
My question is how much does it cost on average to get a garage to change the pads?

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Why not phone up someone like qwikfit and ask for a quote? They try some smaller tyre and brake shops in comparason? Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 19 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

£60 + cost of parts/materials.

1 hour per wheel is good.

Some places would charge more or less..
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 19 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Car brakes are very easy to do yourself, easier than bike brakes (not through a better design, more through bike brakes always having seized pins).

Its an easy afternoons work for a total amateur. You need to take the wheel off, 2 spanners to open up the caliper, and a pair of grips or a g-clamp to push the pistons back in.

Last time I bought a set of car brake pads it cost me about 40 quid for cheapie pattern ones.

Whenever I've had a quote for doing brakes from a garage it has been prohibitely expensive, usually 150 quid+, then the vat on top.
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 19 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the replies. If its easier than bikes then I'll attempt it myself as I've changed them on a Blade before.

I think i'll still offer 450 though Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 19 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
Car brakes are very easy to do yourself, easier than bike brakes (not through a better design, more through bike brakes always having seized pins).

Its an easy afternoons work for a total amateur. You need to take the wheel off, 2 spanners to open up the caliper, and a pair of grips or a g-clamp to push the pistons back in.

Last time I bought a set of car brake pads it cost me about 40 quid for cheapie pattern ones.

Whenever I've had a quote for doing brakes from a garage it has been prohibitely expensive, usually 150 quid+, then the vat on top.


Ahem....
I do not need to jack up my bike and remove the wheels to change pads....

Copper slip on the pins (SPARINGLY) and remove all crap when refitting save time next change

Bike brakes are a dawdle.
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 19 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

do em yourself Thumbs Up very easy to do as said before simply removing wheel caliper and then changing over the pads and hey presto! Just take it easy for the first few miles to let the pads bed in abit
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 19 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Front pads at my garage are 0.7 of an hour which is about 36 pounds plus the pads, so your looking at about 60-70 ish really.
Front pads are so easy to do so do it yourself? You can probably get the pads for a tenner from eurocarparts. Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 19 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
robby wrote:
Car brakes are very easy to do yourself, easier than bike brakes (not through a better design, more through bike brakes always having seized pins).

Its an easy afternoons work for a total amateur. You need to take the wheel off, 2 spanners to open up the caliper, and a pair of grips or a g-clamp to push the pistons back in.

Last time I bought a set of car brake pads it cost me about 40 quid for cheapie pattern ones.

Whenever I've had a quote for doing brakes from a garage it has been prohibitely expensive, usually 150 quid+, then the vat on top.



Ahem....
I do not need to jack up my bike and remove the wheels to change pads....

Copper slip on the pins (SPARINGLY) and remove all crap when refitting save time next change

Bike brakes are a dawdle.


You have clearly never done the brake pads on a bandit or SV650.
Blind hole on one side, flush with the caliper on the other side, and the pin will be seized. Only way I found to do them was cut through the pin and split the caliper.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 19 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
You have clearly never done the brake pads on a bandit or SV650.
Blind hole on one side, flush with the caliper on the other side, and the pin will be seized. Only way I found to do them was cut through the pin and split the caliper.


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PostPosted: 20:16 - 19 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cars brake pads are a piece of Pi$$ to change. I have never paid and never will pay someone else to do such a simple job. Still get a quote and haggle with it then replace the pads yourself and save £££'s. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 19 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

sometimes need to be careful if you need to force the pistons back in the caliper on some older vauxhalls too much force can bugger up the seals in the master cylinder so go gently when pushing back the pistons if your doing it yourself
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 19 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
1 hour per wheel is good.


1 hour per wheel, for some brake pads? Shocked
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 19 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
Walloper wrote:
1 hour per wheel is good.


1 hour per wheel, for some brake pads? Shocked


Including a half hour coffee break I hope, I have changed a front wishbone in less than an hour before now.
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
Walloper wrote:
1 hour per wheel is good.


1 hour per wheel, for some brake pads? Shocked


Well if you do not look after your kit expect to be raped by garages.

1hr to change a set of pads start to finish is a good time.

If it takes longer than that you do not take on the work without advising the customer.

I did not think we were involved in a price war over car brake pads.

We have already had the one where motorcycle brakes are more difficultto replace than car brakes.

Always some argument for nowt.
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
1hr to change a set of pads start to finish is a good time.


It doesn't take an hour per wheel to change some pads, I'd be going somewhere else if it took them that long.
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
Walloper wrote:
1hr to change a set of pads start to finish is a good time.


It doesn't take an hour per wheel to change some pads, I'd be going somewhere else if it took them that long.


Are you telling me my job pal?

I will charge an hour only as my ActPak can't charge you 1/2 an hour.
It will take as long as it takes. But more than an hour due to neglect will cost you more and make me more wealthy.

But you can take your car to someone else.... Laughing
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PostPosted: 05:11 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

sidey wrote:
sometimes need to be careful if you need to force the pistons back in the caliper on some older vauxhalls too much force can bugger up the seals in the master cylinder so go gently when pushing back the pistons if your doing it yourself


Do it slowly, and take the cap off the reservoir first, would've thought most cars would be fine with this aslong as you do it slowly?

Car pads are easy to replace compared to bike ones, the pistons are gaitored so don't need cleaning up like bike ones, should just slide back in ok with a G-clamp. I had to fit new front pads to the Primera just after I bought it, cost me £15 total for both front sides from local brake pad supplier and about 20-30minutes per side.

Robby, the GSXR rear brake was the same suzuki design of a pin going into a blind hole that'd siezed with no way of gripping it. When I had to change the pads i'd just split the caliper and put new pads in, didn't need to cut through the pin or anything. I'd say it takes me longer to replace pads and clean up the calipers on the bike than it does on the car.
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper is about right... it should take about an hour to put a set of pads in... you dont just lift the carrier up throw pads in wheel back on, then rub hands and say *job done*. you need to clean the pad carrier/slider 15mins aside undo the bleed nipple, once the brake hose has been clamped (not mole grips) slowly pushing the piston back untill all the way home, then tighten bleed nipple up... put a small amount of copper slip on the back of the pads (metal side Rolling Eyes ) sometimes you need to file a mill or two of the pads so they slide nicely in the carrier (not to much or they will rattle). put calliper back on. place wheel back on and torque to correct setting... then go in to car pump brakes making sure its a nice feel to the pedal before test driving... so to do the job properly an hour.
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I bought the car for 50 quid less than the asking price, but having looked at the discs, there is a bit of a lip on a couple of them.

Will these need replacing as soon as possible, and I'm guessing I'm gonna be paying a bit more for new discs?
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they vented discs or solid? you can get away with small lips on the discs. there is a minimum spec level for the discs, but you will need a micrometer to measure them. if you fit the pads to the discs with a lip. your pedal will feel soft for a good few miles untill they bed in to the shape of the discs.
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ken wrote:
Are they vented discs or solid? you can get away with small lips on the discs. there is a minimum spec level for the discs, but you will need a micrometer to measure them. if you fit the pads to the discs with a lip. your pedal will feel soft for a good few miles untill they bed in to the shape of the discs.


Solid discs. Not sure how big a small lip is though Shocked
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

right solid discs will cost around £12-£15 per disc from a motor factor, partco linco alwoods, and as you have saved £50 on the price of the car, its proably worth fitting new ones. not really worth messing with brakes, not just for you're sakes but also other peoples.

And lip wise if you can see it, its probably big enough.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ken wrote:
right solid discs will cost around £12-£15 per disc from a motor factor, partco linco alwoods, and as you have saved £50 on the price of the car, its proably worth fitting new ones. not really worth messing with brakes, not just for you're sakes but also other peoples.

And lip wise if you can see it, its probably big enough.


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PostPosted: 13:08 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-VECTRA--BRAKE-DISCS-PADS-FRONT-MINTEX--5-STUD_W0QQitemZ230223616954QQcmdZViewItem

You may not need discs.
To replace discs is a cnut of a job requiring more knowledge than you can get here. Bearings and things are involved. Edited for the pedant among us ON SUM CARS (for fuck sake you shower of twits)

Fire a set of pads in.

You will probably need to split the caliper which needs a 17mm socket and a lot of oomph. Push the pistons back in clean it all up.
Wear a dust mask and gloves.
All stuff in there contains carcinogens..... Shocked
Clash it all together (with some copper-slip as Ken says)
Bob's a Auld Bastrd who shags your Aunty.

Really real world it is never as simple.
The vehicle age has loads to do with it.
Normally you find folk who buy cheap cars spend zero time on maintenance so routine stuff is never as routine.
It could be messy in there. Sad

Please will folk stop saying bike brakes are more difficult to fit than car brakes.
I could spit out ten bikes to three cars in the same time. Be serious. Rolling Eyes Laughing
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