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PostPosted: 23:17 - 29 Feb 2008    Post subject: Yamaha FZ1n Reply with quote

For some reason these have really caught my attention recently and I've come from the dark side and realised that its not all about 180mph and a racebike for the road. I sat on one a few months ago and it felt just... right. Big wide bars not too much lean and it looks stonking.

Has anyone on here got one or ridden one? Wouldn't mind a few first hand opinions of the bike as it could well be my next choice. Twisted Evil

https://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008%5C02%5C29%5Cbikepics-1199716-800.jpg

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PostPosted: 00:09 - 01 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta be the yellow one Very Happy

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Standard can lets the bike down in looks, Nice to work on, Havent ridden one properly (Just from the workshop to the showroom) but wouldnt mind owning one in couple of years time...First 'modern' bike in a while i actually like the look and feel of Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 01 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I owned one for a month and a bit till someone did a u-turn in front of me.

The bike is fantastic apart from the engine and whats been done to it. There are 2 sets of butterfly's in the throttle bodies, in first gear only one set barely open which means 1st gear has hardly any power. So I used to set off from 2nd gear all the time. Also I found the gearing too tall for a naked bike, 80mph in first is a bit over the top.

There are a few ways to sort the engine out, but you'll need around £2000 min to get it as it should have been. Have a look on https://www.yamahafz1oa.com/ to see what people have done to theres.

Its a cracking looking bike, but if it wasn't for the engine I would have bought another one.

I have an 03 R1 now and it has the power delivery that this bike should have had.
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 01 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

not a 1000 but here's my 600....had her a month now!! Very Happy Very Happy LOVE it!!

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PostPosted: 00:56 - 01 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the look of the 1000, the 600 looks a little bit weird to me. Probably looks different in the flesh though.
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 01 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Project9928 wrote:
I owned one for a month and a bit till someone did a u-turn in front of me.

The bike is fantastic apart from the engine and whats been done to it. There are 2 sets of butterfly's in the throttle bodies, in first gear only one set barely open which means 1st gear has hardly any power. So I used to set off from 2nd gear all the time. Also I found the gearing too tall for a naked bike, 80mph in first is a bit over the top.

There are a few ways to sort the engine out, but you'll need around £2000 min to get it as it should have been. Have a look on https://www.yamahafz1oa.com/ to see what people have done to theres.

Its a cracking looking bike, but if it wasn't for the engine I would have bought another one.

I have an 03 R1 now and it has the power delivery that this bike should have had.


Considering the essence of a bike is its engine and the rest of what is there is to maximise and utilise power output and keep the bike from killing you I reckon an engine that needs two grand to make it ok spells out shyte bike
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PostPosted: 01:39 - 01 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has to be the black or the 08 white with red for me.

How noticeable is the acceleration in first? You say its not that quick, is that for a 1000?

Oh, and 80mph in 1st Shocked Laughing
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PostPosted: 03:08 - 01 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its anything like FZ6s, your ass will be sorry. The longest I managed to spend on it was about 2 hours, and my ass had gone numb. If it wasn't for the suspension being decent I'd probably be seeing a chiropractor.

Looks pretty unique.

Also about all that engine lark, no power in first but you can still get to 80? Hm. Shame. The FZ6 was pretty shite down in the low revs which meant you had to buzz around the top of the rev range, was quite fun for a while though.

I also concur that it is ridiculous that you have to spend £2000 to get the engine to how it 'should of been'. What does that mean though? What is wrong other than the gear ratios being borked?
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 01 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattgirv wrote:
If its anything like FZ6s, your ass will be sorry. The longest I managed to spend on it was about 2 hours, and my ass had gone numb. If it wasn't for the suspension being decent I'd probably be seeing a chiropractor.


hmmm I did a 7 hour trip the other day and my ass was fine!!!

garthunkle wrote:
I like the look of the 1000, the 600 looks a little bit weird to me. Probably looks different in the flesh though.


yeah that photo does make it look weird...its the one off the garages website as I haven't taken any yet! Looks a whole lot better in the flesh!

Personally I love the FZ....wouldnt mind a go on the FZ1 though!!
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 01 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered the new z1000 also? It would cost far less to get rid of the bling and tone down the styling if you find it a bit over the top. Check out some of the threads on riderforums. Americans love accessorizing, and some of their mods are tasteful on the odd occasion. I am planning to test ride both the fazer and the zed next weekend if I can arrange it. If you beat me to a test ride, please post your impressions.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 01 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattgirv wrote:
If its anything like FZ6s, your ass will be sorry. The longest I managed to spend on it was about 2 hours, and my ass had gone numb. If it wasn't for the suspension being decent I'd probably be seeing a chiropractor.

Looks pretty unique.

Also about all that engine lark, no power in first but you can still get to 80? Hm. Shame. The FZ6 was pretty shite down in the low revs which meant you had to buzz around the top of the rev range, was quite fun for a while though.

I also concur that it is ridiculous that you have to spend £2000 to get the engine to how it 'should of been'. What does that mean though? What is wrong other than the gear ratios being borked?


The FZ6 is the worst bike I have ever ridden, can't remember the suspension being decent though. I was given one as a curtesy bike after the crash and was stuck with it for 2 month before I got paid out.

Yes it will get to 80, but not very quickly. 2nd gear was a little more lively and I got it up to 160 (indicated) felt like a long time to get there.

Yamaha have done a nice job on restricting first gear, for what reason I don't know?

Its the 2nd set of butterfly's in the throttle bodies that are the problem. One set open with the throttle and the other are controlled by the ECU. The ones controlled by the ECU barely open in first gear, these can be removed but then you need to get a power commander and a custom map, also there are a lot of fiddle screws that more likely or not will fall in the engine. I think there is someone called Ivan on the FZ1OA forum who sells something called an FCE, that helps? The exhaust is very restrictive due to emissions laws so its best to get a full system. After you have done that you should have close to 150hp at the rear wheel, I think there were a few people who had them dynoed and were only showing 130hp at the rear wheel some were less.

Also it'll do 100 miles to the tank, 15 miles on the reserve.

I'd say go and test ride one and see how you get on.
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 01 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I haven't ridden one, I'm surprised to read the comments here ref. poor acceleration in first - I was quite interested in the bike, and all the reviews I've read have concentrated on the annoying 'stutter' in the injection (which is what the £150 Ivan FCE thing fixes for you) when accelerating from a closed throttle. I believe the 2008 models have had the glitched fixed, at the cost of 8-10 BHP.

I guess if that really was so annoying, they may have fixated on it to the exclusion of other issues

The looks for both the faired and naked versions are spot on - the naked looks especially brutal!

Yellow looks awesome - but the black is moodily tempting too!

Simon Hargreaves - the editor of one of the big bike mags - swears by his FZ1 test bike, so they impress some people.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 01 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant comment on the performance, but the thou looks sweet as a nut.

I would have to change that headlight though.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 01 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I hate those headlights. Loads of the new bikes have them style headlights and they drive me insane Sad I like round retro headlights on naked bikes Very Happy

By the way, I didn't think the FZ6 was 'that' bad. I will say it was extremely easy to ride and it felt very light. It would probably be a good bike to start on if you have just passed your DAS and don't want something blisteringly fast.

I just didn't like the seat really, it certainly wasn't anywhere near the worst bike I had ever ridden. I don't really know if the suspension was that decent, just in comparison to some of the bikes I have owned and ridden. The worst being my CB-1 which has the original rear shock still, which bottoms out on speed bumps. I need to get it serviced at some point. The seat on my CB-1 is soft and squishy though in comparison to the FZ6 which was really hard Sad
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 01 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, I like the headlight. The retro ones make the bikes look too old fashioned for my liking.
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 01 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

garthunkle wrote:
Nah, I like the headlight. The retro ones make the bikes look too old fashioned for my liking.


agreed......thats one thing I love about my FZ6. I'm also a fan of another marmite bike..... https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20B/KTM%20990%20Super%20Duke%20R%2007%20%201.jpg
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 27 Jun 2009    Post subject: fz1 n Reply with quote

i have a 57 plate no fuel glitch and had some bikes but this ones a beast and a pleasure to own i love it
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PostPosted: 07:57 - 27 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

they are lovely bikes Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 27 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay! Another year old thread resurrection!

Now this is just a guess, but i'm reckoning on new forum member searched for threads about his bike (FZ1), then posted their informative and highly interesting reply without bothering to check the feckin dates.

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PostPosted: 09:15 - 28 Jun 2009    Post subject: dates Reply with quote

sorry m8 dont know what dates ur on about any advice is good
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