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TheDonUK
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 17 Mar 2008    Post subject: London -> Amsterdam Reply with quote

Like the title says im planning on making a brief visit to amsterdam

If you book months ahead easyjet do a 40 quid return from stanstead, but by the time i got from home to stanstead i might as well fly with BA from heathrow for about 70/80 quid,

Im thinking a cheap ferry ticket to calais then a blast along the coast to amsterdam by bike might be an option... I figure amsterdam is what 250 miles?, So if i got a 6AM ferry from dover 3 hours or so to get there, a couple of hours in amsterdam buying... tulips... then blast back to calais and get a late ferry back home...

unless my calculations are well out thats about 600 miles ish roundtrip,

Any comments? advice?, I am aware of the Harwich - Amsterdam ferry but it costs more than flying....


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PostPosted: 19:03 - 17 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recommend the Norfolk line to Dunkirk. Should be the cheapest option and you're dropped off 15km or so closer :p

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PostPosted: 20:12 - 17 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find somewhere good on the bike to stash your tulips so that if you do get pulled over by customs it's not going to be found unless they dismantle the bike, airbox or somewhere like that. Take some road maps of whatever bits of France cos that's where you've been. Have been stopped and checked when leaving the country but not when coming in, but they do pull random vehicles over to check. Haven't had anything at Calais other than them not letting jerry cans of petrol onto the boat, so those got poured down the drain nearby which had lots of fag ends around. Whistle

Assuming you don't get busted then the only annoying part is as you're leaving Dover and start thinking how many more tulips you could have had with you as customs didn't check anything.

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PostPosted: 08:22 - 18 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get over excited, have too much 'tulip' and then ride your bike. I don't care how used to 'tulip' you are it's likely to make you an unsafe rider.

Takes about 3.5hrs in a car from Calais to central Amsterdam. Of course if all you are interested in is 'Tulip' you could save yourself an hours riding by going to Vlissingen instead. There are 3 shops there selling 'Tulip' and prices are cheaper than in Amsterdam. If you want any more information* then PM me!

*Please note I don't partake of Tulip myself but live in the Netherlands!

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PostPosted: 08:27 - 18 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should have added I wouldn't be that worried about hiding 'Tulip' from UK customs. All you'd be likely to get is a slap on the wrist.
What you should be worried about is French customs, our backwards cousins in frogland have some antiquated ideas about 'Tulip' and being caught taking it across their borders can result in a prison sentence in the worst case scenario, confiscation of your bike and a heavy fine after a couple of days in a stinking french cell being the normal state of affairs.

If I was really going on a 'Tulip' run I'd go Stena line from Harwich-4 hr crossing on the fast ferry.
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 18 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the advice all.

Stiffler: I looked at the norfolk line but the website wasent up and running, besides Dover is a known blatt for me.

Ste: I was just gonna put all my lovely flowers in the middle of my rucksack wrapped in some rubbers, but on second thoughts i will find somewhere suitable to stash em.

Roper: Yep cheers for the advice, i know my limits, and if i was going for a mong out session i would just fly over and doss around on foot.

3.5 Hours you say, that means i could be in amsterdam before noon if i got the early ferry to calais. I would feel better going to amsterdam, i have been a few times, i know exactly where to go for the finest tulips in town, plus there is this shop near Dam square that does the most amazing garlic/pizza/chibata style cheesey bread, i really cant get enough of that stuff. And i guess i would have to accept the risk of getting caught if its something i want to do... Maybe post half back take half with... Not talking about supply amounts of tulips here just personal use...

And i did look into the Harwich-Amsterdam ferry but it seemed really expensive, like 140 quid, and that was "off-peak", Im pretty sure the most i would pay is 30 quid each way dover/calais.

Anyways cheers, given me some things to ponder over, any more advice is welcome... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 18 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

roper wrote:
If I was really going on a 'Tulip' run I'd go Stena line from Harwich-4 hr crossing on the fast ferry.

Nah, if you're wanting to get some duty free tulips to bring back home then I'd have said Harwich > Hook Van Holland is bad. Because if you're going Dover > Calais then you've been riding around northern France for the day rather than spending the day in the Netherlands.

France don't have different drug classes, its all treated the same so you really don't want to get busted over there.

But as long as you've got it stashed well enough then all should be good. Put it somewhere that you'd really have to piss customs off for them to be looking close enough to find it. If there's strains you really like, some of the coffeeshops will sell more than 5g if you ask.

Hetz, it shouldn't be anything new to the police, I'm sure they're already well aware that some people bring home souvenirs, would be nice to think that they concentrate their efforts looking for more important things than tourists bringing personal use quantities home.
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 18 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
That was smart, posting that stuff on a public forum frequented by the police. Any bikers thinking of using the ferries for the next year, be damned sure you're clean or can carry a very calm demeanour. Laughing


Even if Customs/Police did read BCF, i havent posted dates of travel, and like Ste says if they have the time and money to set up an operation to catch me then... Well... Its a sad state of affairs...


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If there's strains you really like, some of the coffeeshops will sell more than 5g if you ask.
O really? i was just planning on going in a couple of times with a sheepish look on my face and say "Please sir can i have some more"
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 18 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am i missing something here?

I mean,it seems a long way to go for it,surely theres someone locally you can get some off?.
Or is it that much better/cheaper over there?
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 18 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
O really? i was just planning on going in a couple of times with a sheepish look on my face and say "Please sir can i have some more"

When you go to the dealer say you'd like some of the xyz, and they ask how much you want, just ask something "not allowed more than 5g am I?" and some will say yes. Wink Some are more relaxed than others, probably depends on how sound the dealer is and if his boss is within earshot.

But of course to be honest there's more than enough coffeeshops, 5g from each and suddenly you'd have a very large amount of tulips.
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Am i missing something here?

I mean,it seems a long way to go for it,surely theres someone locally you can get some off?.
Or is it that much better/cheaper over there?

Very very much missing something.

Sure you can get it from people over here and stuff over here will be cheaper than some of the dutch stuff. But comparisions... go and piss in a bottle, add some sand to that to make it weigh more and then some dodgy chemicals, that's UK cannabis. Or you can get a bottle of fine wine/vodka/etc, thats dutch cannabis. Basically they're completely different. Smile
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 18 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
go and piss in a bottle, add some sand to that to make it weigh more and then some dodgy chemicals, that's UK cannabis. Or you can get a bottle of fine wine/vodka/etc, thats dutch cannabis. Basically they're completely different. Smile


I've never lived then have i Laughing

Guess ill never know now,after 13+ years of it i quit just 3 days ago Very Happy

Maybe a weekend away in the near future is called for,just out of curiosity Wink ..

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PostPosted: 18:48 - 18 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

justmetoo125 wrote:
Am i missing something here?

I mean,it seems a long way to go for it,surely theres someone locally you can get some off?.
Or is it that much better/cheaper over there?


The fact that i am considering riding all that way just for some dutch product should speak volumes about the quality/price. The thought of picking up the green we get over here is really unappealing having tasted the finer side of life.

The fact is here its "yea gimmie a 1/4" and thats of whatever they happen to have, over there theres a goddamn menu...

Ste: whats your tipple?, NYC Diesel did it for me
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 18 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trainwreck was the favourite last time. Smile
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 18 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did get some grey solid once,which i was told was called morrocan (spelling?) grey ?
That was some good schit Laughing but only had that once.

Funny enough,the main reason i decided to quit,is that lately although the green is fairly decent stuff,theres never a lot of it about,and the amount you get for your £40 quid is getting stupidly small.
The solid thats been about for the last year has got extremely schite,and has been giving me a bad head.Also there seems to be more bits of plastic in it than anything else Confused .

Id love to just have a ride over there and try some of the good stuff,but i dont have a passport yet so ill have to wait.

I cant believe it's as easy as going into a shop,and buying it just like that Laughing .
I wish they would make it legal over here,i mean,all the problems that arise through people drinking and that's legal,yet weed is classed as a drug....Just stoooooopid.
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 19 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, i agree, cut out the middle man, eliminates the dealers, ensures good product is smoked and gets a nice healthy tax for the government... Oh but dident you know if you smoke you may get "REEFER MADNESS!!!"

On another note there should definately be a BCF Amsterdam trip, either by bike or flying... I would deffo be up for that...
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 20 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:


On another note there should definately be a BCF Amsterdam trip, either by bike or flying... I would deffo be up for that...


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PostPosted: 12:38 - 21 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking of doing a similar trip myself in the summer. I hadnt realised how close amsterdam was to france till I looked the other day!

Main thing you need to worry about is sniffer dogs... Some rubbers should do the trick though Wink

quick question... do you need to have your licence for a year before you can ride abroad?
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 21 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

No i think as long as you are not on L plates you are fine abroad but it would be worth checking for sure just in case...
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 21 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

element wrote:
Main thing you need to worry about is sniffer dogs... Some rubbers should do the trick though


Sniffer dogs are the problem, they use them extensively at the border checks in France. One sniff and you're talking about 6-12 months in a French jail.
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 24 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

element wrote:
Main thing you need to worry about is sniffer dogs... Some rubbers should do the trick though Wink

Not all sniffer dogs are trained the same, they'll be for a variety of different drugs, cash, explosives, fire arms, the list goes on. When they're looking for someone with a big haul of coke or whatever they really don't want the dog going nuts over someone with a spliff in their pocket. I've had them sniff over me and my bag when I've been carrying tulips without the dog finding anything, I'd say half of it is down to how you react, if you're being very nervous then it doesn't take a genius to work out why that might be.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 24 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
That was smart, posting that stuff on a public forum frequented by the police. Any bikers thinking of using the ferries for the next year, be damned sure you're clean or can carry a very calm demeanour. Laughing



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PostPosted: 15:12 - 30 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
On another note there should definately be a BCF Amsterdam trip, either by bike or flying... I would deffo be up for that...


Its funny you should mention this as after you posted about sending back green from Holland i have been planning a trip to Holland with the GF.

If all goes to plan (i may have a job oevr summer in US so depends on that) going to get a rack for the 'Four and so can camp for 1-3 nights getting baked and seen a bit of south Holland. Was thinking around Eindoven and route planner tells me ~180miles which is nothing, i did 630miles on the way home in one day from Scotland Laughing

But yea, my point i would love to do the trip with more than just to my the GF so if you were thinking beginning of summer and i find out my dates for US (or that i just didnt get it) be well up for it, hopefully with a few more BCFers!

Also, as been said my plan was if you went back Calais (£50 return) with a few days in Holland would look pretty innocent, more so with a group of you IMO.

As as been said, ever since going to Dam last year ive been craving the quality and selection you can get over there Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 30 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds good andy, It would have to be the beginning of summer after i finish uni exams and whatnot, so like June/July?
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 30 Mar 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
It sounds good andy, It would have to be the beginning of summer after i finish uni exams and whatnot, so like June/July?


Well im all a bit in the balance at the moment cos of this Camp America thing that i hope to do but im finished this year on the 22nd May which is quite early but i would be more than happy to go when is good for you BUT would need to know if USA was going ahead first of course. USA is 3 months and i have 4 months off. I reckon i could be leaving end of June if i get it.

I should find out about America in next 2 months so still plenty of time to plan as would like to camp for the few days just to chill out and see/smoke Holland Laughing

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PostPosted: 02:00 - 03 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just came back from a ride to Belgium. Visited Bruge and Ghent. While I was there I thought I might hop to Holland and visit Amsterdam for a few days. Really cool place, the Dutch are really good people and if you find yourself their wondering what to do; the "foam" gallery (photography gallery) is quite a cool place to take a stroll through.

One thing cannot recommend is putting your tulips in your petrol tank after having a tulip and windmill induced spell of paranoia. All cause you were worried about dogs eating them. This had the effect of most of my tulips being ruined by petrol contamination. Completely gutted as these were particularly nice strains of Indian and Nepal tulips.

Anyone know what tulip is the petrol has dried out?

Can i purify the tulips somehow. Put in hot water so the petrol rises to the top or just go for a ride on my bike again?
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