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SimonB
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 09 Apr 2008    Post subject: Caught speeding however the date of the offence is wrong Reply with quote

Now before people start jumping in and slating me. I know what I did was wrong and I accept the fact that I should take it on the chin as one of those things.

However as you may have guessed from the title the police officer has put down the wrong date. Instead of putting down 2008 he has put down 2006 and I've double checked and it is wrong.

Does anyone know if there is a way out of this due to the date?

Thanks for any help

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PostPosted: 00:35 - 09 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a technicality but the ticket is invalid.

Your solicitor would get it thrown out of court in a heartbeat Razz
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SimonB
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 09 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey thanks for the response I managed to find that website called pepipoo and looked around for advice.

It looks like I need to speak to a solicitor for some advice as there is something called "the slip rule" and it seems to allow for typos such as that. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 07:21 - 09 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or accept it knowing it'll only be valid for a year?
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SimonB
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PostPosted: 07:44 - 09 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

dave_h34 wrote:
Or accept it knowing it'll only be valid for a year?


I'm pretty sure its like any other endorsable fine the points will stay on my license for 4 years and I will probably still have to declare it to the insurance companies for another 5 years.

Ah just re-read what you said did you mean held everything in and hope they put the date of the offence down as 2006?

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PostPosted: 07:56 - 09 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problem here is you don't know whether it's shown as 2006 on big brothers computer. More than likely it was just a mistake upon physically adding it to the paper part. So hoping your 3 points only count for a year may not pay off.

I've recently got an NIP for speeding, however licence came back with code TS10, a traffic light offence?! How they got it that wrong I don't know. Written a letter but forgot to print it at work, will send tomorrow.
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 09 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd try and find more info on this "slip rule".

I'd say that stuff like misspelling your name and address should be covered by this because they are kind of fixed facts that can be shown to be incorrect and are not connected with what you have been accused of.

The date of the offence however is a key fact of the case against you and so I reckon that it must be 100% correct. On that clampers programme on TV someone got their parking ticket revoked because the traffic warden had put 12:00 as the time of the offence without putting am or pm. The offence was actually at 00:00 i.e. midnight and so they were let off.

I think you have every right to deny the case that you did anything in 2006 which is what you have been accused of.

Of course my opinion is only based on what I think is fair and my anti-speed cam bias and what I have seen on TV shows so I suspect I could be totally off base.
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 09 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:04 - 09 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coxy_UK wrote:

I've recently got an NIP for speeding, however licence came back with code TS10, a traffic light offence?! How they got it that wrong I don't know. Written a letter but forgot to print it at work, will send tomorrow.


STOP!!!!!!!!! Don't send that letter. Just accept the TS10 offence. Insurance companies don't increase their premiums much for TS10's. Most will simply ignore it when competing for your business. They most certainly don't ignore speeding offences. I was told this by a friendly chap while calling around for insurance quotes. It certainly didn't cost me much of a price hike.
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 09 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

nrml76 wrote:


STOP!!!!!!!!! Don't send that letter. Just accept the TS10 offence. Insurance companies don't increase their premiums much for TS10's. Most will simply ignore it when competing for your business. They most certainly don't ignore speeding offences. I was told this by a friendly chap while calling around for insurance quotes. It certainly didn't cost me much of a price hike.


Personally, I regard red-light offences as far more serious than speeding.
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 09 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I've got a Ts20 which they regard as worse than both speeding and red light offences Sad
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 09 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive got an SP30
Also lost all my NCB this year thanks to a fellow "bikers" dis honesty.
And I managed to Insure my NC29 for £425.

Last year, with 3 years NCB, and the SP30 I insured it for £350.

So again, not much of a price hike there.


Im 20 btw.




And back to the OP. A lad I work with got caught drink driving.
Went to court.
The Solicitor working against the lad I work with was asking for copies of all the police notebooks to see if the driver had been left alone at any time to have a drink between being caught driving and being breathalized.
The solicitor was asking for the wrong dates from the note books.

And it got chucked out of court.


Id fight it. And if that doesn't work, Just demand the Calibration Certificate for that Speed Camera on The date of the offense.

And just hope to fuck they dont have one.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 10 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

nrml76 wrote:
Coxy_UK wrote:

I've recently got an NIP for speeding, however licence came back with code TS10, a traffic light offence?! How they got it that wrong I don't know. Written a letter but forgot to print it at work, will send tomorrow.


STOP!!!!!!!!! Don't send that letter. Just accept the TS10 offence. Insurance companies don't increase their premiums much for TS10's. Most will simply ignore it when competing for your business. They most certainly don't ignore speeding offences. I was told this by a friendly chap while calling around for insurance quotes. It certainly didn't cost me much of a price hike.


Not sent yet. Will double check this, though I'd suspected TS10 would be worse as even insurance companies accept most people speed, but few do red lights which is ludicrously dangerous.
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 13 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a TS10 on my licence, but I am being charged only £150 fully comp for a brand new Fazer FZ1. I've got 2 years no claims. When ringing around for quotes, one of the blokes working for an insurance agent told me that TS10 offenses carry less weight than speeding offenses, because they deem speeding as risky behaviour. Why TS10's are not puzzles me. He did say some speeding offenses are worse than others; I forget which. It's something to do with the insurance industries risk stratification methods. He was a random stranger on the end of a phone line, who may or may not have been correct. Make your own judgment on that. It might be interesting if two different people to ring the same broker for quotes, giving very similar information, differing only in the endorsement on the licence.

If you do confirm it one way or the other, please post it here. It's useful information to know.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 13 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghost wrote:
And I've got a Ts20 which they regard as worse than both speeding and red light offences Sad
Has it made much difference to your quotes?
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