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Wafer_Thin_Ham
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Have I fucked up? Reply with quote

By putting fully synth into my hornet because it's all they had. I usually run semi-synth?

They didn't have any semi in the right weight so I just picked up the fully synth. I figured it would be fine, but someone off another forum said you shouldn't swap between semi and fully synth, so it's got me doubting myself.

What's the opinion on here?

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PostPosted: 17:17 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think your fine, dont know of anyone having problems switching between the two so long as they are the same weights Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've swapped between the two many times with no problems.
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Re: Have I fucked up? Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
By putting fully synth into my hornet because it's all they had. I usually run semi-synth?

They didn't have any semi in the right weight so I just picked up the fully synth. I figured it would be fine, but someone off another forum said you shouldn't swap between semi and fully synth, so it's got me doubting myself.

What's the opinion on here?

Thanks

BH


You can put fully synth in a Hornet. What you aren't supposed to do is to put fully synth in when there is some semi synth in there already.

'Apparently' the two oils can congeal and thicken. However, I've never seen or even heard of it happening, so I sincerely doubt it is an issue.

Personally, I'd either ignore it or do an oil and filter change and do all fully synth. Its better for high revving fours anyway.
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phew, thanks for confirming what I thought! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Re: Have I fucked up? Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:


Personally, I'd either ignore it or do an oil and filter change and do all fully synth. Its better for high revving fours anyway.


I did and oil and filter change and it only has fully synth in it now. Well I presume there are dregs of the semi lingering, but not enough to cause a problem.

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It's getting swapped out again after a few trackdays anyway since it's the track bike.
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 03 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

No harm will have been done.

Similarly, mixing semi- and fully-synth causing it to "congeal and thicken" is a load of codswallop.
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 06 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Synthetic oil is basically processed mineral oil. Shouldn't cause a problem (only know of one person who had a problem, and that was my father with gearbox oil in his car).

Stuff you should not ever mix with mineral oil (of the synthetic or non synthetic varieties) is castor based oils.

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PostPosted: 10:35 - 06 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dunno where i get this idea... but i thought semi wasn't as good... and that you were ideally meant to run full but if you ever ran with semi then from then on your meant to run semi? i have no idea wheres thats from but remember being told it, maybe a classic car owner?
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 06 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the same with my Hornet a few weeks back, it's not a problem.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 06 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be fine, although I did that once with my FMX, it didnt help my gears at all (seemed to jump more often, not catching or something). Changed back a day later and my bike is still fine 1 year on. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 06 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

dr_adams wrote:
i dunno where i get this idea... but i thought semi wasn't as good... and that you were ideally meant to run full but if you ever ran with semi then from then on your meant to run semi? i have no idea wheres thats from but remember being told it, maybe a classic car owner?


There is a lot of paranoia about oils. But to be honest I have swapped between synthetics and non sythetics, and used synthetic car oils in bikes.

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PostPosted: 18:59 - 06 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed with Keith, there is so much crap written about oils its untrue. I've been guilty of oil paranoia myself several times on here without a doubt.

Yes there is some complex technology involved, but people get way to hung up on things.

Best advice is to do some of your own research on oil (non forum based) and understand what all the codes and descriptions actually mean. Then make your own choices.
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 06 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree that synth wont affect the engine, but what about it causing clutch slip, or is that a thing of the past these days?

My mate and his cbr wont go anywhere near synth for this reason alone. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 02:26 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

heroes legend wrote:
Agree that synth wont affect the engine, but what about it causing clutch slip, or is that a thing of the past these days?

My mate and his cbr wont go anywhere near synth for this reason alone. Rolling Eyes

Mobil MX4T Hasn't caused any problems with my clutch over 59,000 of the 79,000 miles on my ZRX..
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PostPosted: 08:08 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

heroes legend wrote:
Agree that synth wont affect the engine, but what about it causing clutch slip, or is that a thing of the past these days?

My mate and his cbr wont go anywhere near synth for this reason alone. Rolling Eyes


That's to do with friction inhibitors found in car oils. Although some (older) bike engines don't like fully synth. I don't think the hornet's one of these though.
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Synthetic oil doesn't cause clutch slip. The only oil I've heard of (and experienced) causing trouble is castrol magnatec.

For the record I've been exclusively using car oil for the last 4 years or so, a mix of fully sun 5W40, mineral 10W40, mineral 15W40. Some for petrol engines and some for diesel engines. The stuff for diesel engines seems to be best. I presume this is because diesel oil is better at holding particulates (general crap) in suspension, and in a bike engine where the oil is in contact with the engine, clutch, and gearbox, there is a lot more scope for crap to get into it.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last time we bought some oil,
we were told that diesel oil is very thick,
as we bought the thicket petrol oil, pretty close to the diesel consistancy. Cars obviously
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

heroes legend wrote:
Agree that synth wont affect the engine, but what about it causing clutch slip, or is that a thing of the past these days?


One of those old wives tales. Not really synthetic, more the additives used in particular oils. Just like the old tale about synthetic leaking out (true on very early ones and they were missing the additive to cause seals to swell slightly).

I ave used fully synthetic car oil in bikes without any problem with the clutch.

All the best

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