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PostPosted: 12:30 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Mini rant: Farmers and shite on the road. Reply with quote

So I go out for a bit of a hoon and come up behind some old gimp traveling at 15mph on a vintage tractor that belongs in several skips. It's ok, the sun is out, the birds are singing and I've not got too many flies spattered across my visor just yet. I follow it for a bit, not wanting to overtake because all my mates who have crashed so far have done so into the side of various farm vehicles turning right without indicating or looking. I'm still in a good mood. Then said pond-dweller turns off into a field and I'm off. No problem....

Except when I return from my ride later in the evening along the same road, it's now covered in crap. Big, sticky, deep lines of crud, coming from the field where Giles turned off earlier.

I thought farmers had a responsibility to clean their vehicles before they use public roads? If they don't and they're reported, I reckon they should be fined. I'm going to report last nights find to my local highways dept, but I strongly suspect I'll get laughed at. Anyone else want to share?
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup.

Annoying, but they have a job to do and having them remove any mud from a tractor before leaving their field isn't really practical, they'd need to jet wash it or sumsuch.

What annoys me are tractors on the city bypass during rush hour, why do they do this? Also, builders rubble falling off lorries at site entrances. Its not unreasonable to expect them to secure their load before leaving the site.

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PostPosted: 13:20 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its unrealistic to expect rural roads to be spotless all the time, how exactly would you have the bit of mud cleaned up?

Someone waddling about with a brush or some sort of sweeper following tractors everytime in & out of a field?
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
Its unrealistic to expect rural roads to be spotless all the time, how exactly would you have the bit of mud cleaned up?

Someone waddling about with a brush or some sort of sweeper following tractors everytime in & out of a field?


Exactly. Fields are muddy. Tractors get muddy. Fields don't contain pressure washers as a rule of thumb. Options: either don't use country roads, accept that country roads get covered in shite and just live with it, or sod off and live in a city instead!

The fact that I learnt to drive on a "vintage tractor that belongs in several skips" has no bearing on the bias of this post. Much.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just be thankful it wasn't big steaming piles of horse poo Smile

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PostPosted: 14:01 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Re: Mini rant: Farmers and shite on the road. Reply with quote

UnknownStuntman wrote:
...going to report last nights find to my local highways dept, but I strongly suspect I'll get laughed at...

Should not get laughed at as by law shouldn't leave stuff on the highway...
Taken from this site wrote:
...Highways Act 1980, the Road Traffic Act 1988. Highways Act 1980 Section 137 “If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway he is guilty of an offence”. Highways Act 1980 Section 148 “If without lawful authority or excuse a person deposits anything whatsoever on a highway to the interruption of any user of the highway he is guilty of an offence”...


Or for further confirmation read it on the governments own site.

Covers anything spilled onto the road so includes builders rubble and the like.

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PostPosted: 14:08 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Country roads have mud on them - just a plain fact.

If farmers have to start cleaning roads every time they move a tractor or other vehicle then everyone would be up in arms about the increase in food costs needed to pay for it.

Also the just cleaned roads would catch you out with them being wet while the rest of the road you're tearing along is dry.

The mucky bits of road should be signposted.

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PostPosted: 14:10 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
Its unrealistic to expect rural roads to be spotless all the time, how exactly would you have the bit of mud cleaned up?

Someone waddling about with a brush or some sort of sweeper following tractors everytime in & out of a field?

Frankly, yeah. If that's what it takes. Some kind of equipment to clean their machine before it uses the road. I'm realistic, I know sometimes these things are unavoidable, and I expect a bit of crap maybe for a ew metres either side of an entrance. But I really wish I'd stopped to take a pic so I could show you the level of shite. It went on for ages, so it wasn't just 'a few revolutions of the wheel' it was a fully caked blob of mud and shit rolling down the road.

Just because the field doesn't contain a pressure washer doesn't mean I should have to skid through miles of dung.
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

panrider_uk wrote:
Country roads have mud on them...farmers have to start cleaning roads...then everyone would be up in arms about the increase in food costs needed to pay for it....The mucky bits of road should be signposted.

Indeed, putting signs up is a way round actually doing anything. As in my previous post above taken from this site
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...What you MUST do

* Do everything possible to prevent mud being deposited on the road. This includes cleaning mud from vehicles, as far as practicable, before they are taken onto the road. The fact that cleaning mud off tractors and attachments is commercially inconvenient may not be a defence in law.

* Only use signs that are authorised. The recommended sign shows the ‘Slippery Road’ triangle with ‘Mud on Road’ sub plate. If appropriate, the ‘Men at Work’ sign should be used. Signs must be at least 750mm.. Make sure they are positioned to give maximum visibility and warning to other road users.

* Clean the road as necessary during the working day and always at the end of the working day.

* Ensure that labour and equipment is available and is suitable for the soil and weather conditions present.

* Where a contractor is used, ensure that prior agreement is reached on who is responsible for mud on road issues (signage, cleaning etc) and ensure that adequate public liability insurance is in place...


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PostPosted: 15:31 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to deal with this pretty much every day, I was shocked to round a corner the other night to find a tractor had blocked one side of the road so he could clean mud off the road! Shocked
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shock horror: mud on Country roads, whats next - water falling out of the sky?

For love of all the gods grow a pair will you?
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

How odd, I was just about to start a thread about this myself. The worst is pushing it round a corner (yes they have corners tight enough to push a 50 Razz ) and having to suddenly avoid some horse shi*e. I swear next time I see someone dropping it I'll cave their heads in, gets on my tits.

And it is their job to do it, impracticality is no excuse.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's your job to corner safely enough that you can avoid horseshit in the middle of the road son.

In fact more than a job, as your neck depends on it.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal wrote:
whats next - water falling out of the sky?

LMFAO!! As a matter of fact, yes.... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm not up for going paintballing are ye? Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 07 May 2008    Post subject: Re: Mini rant: Farmers and shite on the road. Reply with quote

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“If without lawful authority or excuse a person deposits anything whatsoever on a highway to the interruption of any user of the highway he is guilty of an offence”...

Just hope he doesn't do you for leaving the small amounts of rubber your tyres leave on the road when you ride your bike Razz.
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 08 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would that interrupt others road use? Neutral
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 08 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Horse shite fucks me off too Moonie.

Not only do we have to slow down for them, They leave shite allover the place too.
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 08 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least you can see the mud and ride between the tracks it a pity they sometimes leave a stream of diesel down the middle.
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 09 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhhh.

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PostPosted: 10:52 - 09 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair, distances markers on approach to field entrances wouldn't go amiss, something like "Field Entrance, 200 yards and then a bright sign by the entrance...
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