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Jadc
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: (Restrictor KIT ?) KTM DUKE 2 LC4 2002 Reply with quote

Hi guys

im 19 years old and i'm getting a KTM DUKE 2 LC4 2002 but i've been told this bike cant be restricted to 33bhp ? any one know if it can ? thank you
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Re: (Restrictor KIT ?) KTM DUKE 2 LC4 2002 Reply with quote

Jadc wrote:
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im 19 years old and i'm getting a KTM DUKE 2 LC4 2002 but i've been told this bike cant be restricted to 33bhp ? any one know if it can ? thank you


Thats rubbish. FI International might not do an 'official' kit for it, but it can be restricted. You just need to do it yourself and you'll need some dyno time.

It may even be as simple as getting the dyno operator to do you a graph of the bike at '33bhp'.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheapest restriction is your hand Wink
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont i need a certificate prooving thats its been restricted ?

i've just rang up a KTM dealer in romford essex and he going to get back to me to see if it can ?!
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certificate proves fuck all. It means nothing. The only thing that shows is that you payed stupid amounts of money for a few washers. Meaning you got anally raped without lube.

Legally, the bike does have to be restricted but it can be done by any means as long as it produces no more than 33BHP when run on a dyno. Can be a throttle stop or you can try making your own washers.

The FI Restriction costs around the 200-300 mark or something and all you get is some washers and a red "certificate"

Try finding other ways of getting it restricted if you want to but don't go down the FI route.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh rite...because i always thought you had to produce a document to police if u got pulled over and if they asked that is...so if its retricted to 33bhp by any means ill be fine?

basically i wont get in trouble by the police if i dont have a certificate?
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jadc wrote:
basically i wont get in trouble by the police if i dont have a certificate?


No, but your insurance company might require some proof and the police do have the power to have the bike tested to see it is under 25kW.

Having some kind of evidence doesn't mean they won't want it to be tested but at least shows willing so makes it less likely.

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PostPosted: 14:56 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope you won't.

If the police do believe it isn't restricted they will take the bike away to be dyno'd. Even if you have the certificate. I have a certificate as I got my Hornet restricted but I took the carbs out. The certificate proves nothing.

Plus most of the police don't actually know about this particular law.

The bike just has to produce 33bhp or less. In whatever way.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Jadc wrote:
basically i wont get in trouble by the police if i dont have a certificate?


No, but your insurance company might require some proof


Most insurance companies will also accept a dyno run as proof. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and insurance companies, some do require proof but the two that I used didn't. And if they require proof just get a dyno printout of your bike pushing no more than 33BHP.

If they don't accept it and want the "certificate" then just use another insurance company. You pay 250 quid for that piece of red paper. So add that to the company's premium if they ask for the actual certificate rather than proof of less than 33BHP.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really cheesed off...lol i've basically bought the bike thinkin it can be restricted and now its more diffucult then i originally thought heh, any one got any idea's ? in how i can make it produce no more than 33bhp?
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your right hand Wink The most sensible restriction method ever created by nature Very Happy


Or if you're picky you can have throttle stops made. Just find out where the bike makes 33BHP and have one made for that amount of revs. Or something along those lines Eh?
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

How to restrict it? Likely to depend on the carb used. With a basic slide carb quite possible the easiest way is some rubber tubing on the throttle cable between the cap on the carb and the carb slide, preventing you opening the throttle fully. On a carb with some kind of external linkage the probably easiest to put some kind of bracket on that to stop it opening fully.

With a slide carb it is likely that using the FI type washers after the carb would make it run badly.

All the best

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PostPosted: 15:11 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers for the replys

i just rang a KTM dealer in ESSEX and they said it can be done ??? he said they would put a stop in the carboretor (not sure how to spell)

he said it will cost about £40 to do this would this sound correct?
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds Ace Thumbs Up

Best way to do it and much much cheaper.
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, sounds about right, a carb stop? I guess it could well be something that stops the butterflys opening all the way like on my old bike. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

m0l0t0v wrote:
Certificate proves fuck all. It means nothing. The only thing that shows is that you payed stupid amounts of money for a few washers. Meaning you got anally raped without lube.

But... if your bike isn't quite 33bhp then if you're ever asked about it then being about to show a piece of paper which recognise then that could help make it less likely that your bike is looked at closely.

If it is restricted by DIY methods then there's no risk in making a point over how there's no legal requirement to have any proof of the bikes restriction. Riding derestricted is a risk, and it's down to the rider to decide if having an FI International piece of paper will reduce the chances of being busted.
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

woohoo im so excited now lol...just hope i pass my test tomorrow ahhh!!!!!

cheers for the replys dudes
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they want to dyno it, they will, no amount of paper is going to stop them.

If you aren't restricted you're just playing the numbers game. I wasn't restricted for part of my last year and I got away with it. It's up to the OP to decide if it's worth being un-restricted though.
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
m0l0t0v wrote:
Certificate proves fuck all. It means nothing. The only thing that shows is that you payed stupid amounts of money for a few washers. Meaning you got anally raped without lube.

But... if your bike isn't quite 33bhp then if you're ever asked about it then being about to show a piece of paper which recognise then that could help make it less likely that your bike is looked at closely.

If it is restricted by DIY methods then there's no risk in making a point over how there's no legal requirement to have any proof of the bikes restriction. Riding derestricted is a risk, and it's down to the rider to decide if having an FI International piece of paper will reduce the chances of being busted.


Aye true, but chances are slim (in either being pulled over for restriction and not looking at your bike for the certificate).

I rode derestricted but never carried my "restriction certificate" so it wouldn't have made much of a change. Meh.
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jadc wrote:
woohoo im so excited now lol...just hope i pass my test tomorrow ahhh!!!!!

cheers for the replys dudes


Good luck dude. Wink Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 19 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Sounds reasonable.

All the best

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