Honda CBR 400RR vs. BMW 330 M Sport, Which is faster?

[Fahd]

My uncle recently returned from a local BMW dealership in a particularly smug mood with a BMW 330. The reason being ever since I got into riding road bikes I took the piss out of him because my aunt wouldn't let him get a motorcycle (playing the 'we have children & I don't want them fatherless' card can be a cruel thing).

He's smug because he thinks his BMW has what it takes to beat the CBR. The BMW is a 55 plate and from what I'm told it shares the same engine the M3 of that age does however I assume it's not as tweaked and therefore less powerful, it also runs it's drive through an auto gearbox (another disadvantage?). The thing that has me slightly puzzled is it's an 'M Sport', I'm not entirely sure what this means but from what I saw from the car it seems to be an aesthetic thing as it shares the M3 body kit minus the chrome side grill/breather.

Both the vehicles are factory stock, no performance enhancements on either of them.

Anyway back to the point, I really want to kick his cars ass with my much cheaper and older sports bike, just to prove to him once and for all bikes are way cooler than cars. So what I'd like to know is if we were to straight-line drag from standstill on a long 'track' officer, who do you guys think would win. Thanks for any replies, as always...

P.S I was also curious as to whether the Tyga kit would make any difference in increasing the speed slightly, from what I'm told the plastics are quite a bit lighter than the factory fairings and are also based on more modern, more aerodynamic fairings. (I know any change wouldn't be particularly huge).
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[Blau Zedong]

The BM having a biffer box isn't going to help it's cause. You should stuff it on accelaration but it'll be ultimatly faster and will have a large advantage in the corners (this is academic unless it's on a road fast enough to even out the car's lack of accelaration).

Why people buy decent cars with a biffer box I'll never know.
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[tsmith]

the bike will do 140 flat out once unrestricted and 0-60 in about 4 seconds

the cage will do around 150 and 0-60 in about 7 seconds. There are several models, most are listed here: https://www.carspecsdirectory.com/BMW.htm


you should beat him, but he will gradually creep up and eventually inch past you, depending on how long the erm, track is.

In the real world, you paid far less for a vehicle that is faster from a standing start, has virtually the same top speed, doesn't get stuck in traffic and achieves far better fuel economy

[Doddmaster]

Not sure bout the beemer, but I know that the newer Audi auto boxes have a double clutch, so they have the next gear engaged ready. Much quicker than any manual change

[L-Jam]

why dont u do a dual track day (if they exist) an find out ?

ovo my moped wud beat u both though, It does about 180mph cos i bought this new exaust the other day so
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[Dom_]

The bike will do 130 flat out and the car will do 155.

0-100 providing you can pull off properly i.e. 13k revs slipping the clutch to fuck. You will trounce it, but it will start reeling you in very quickly after 100.

Any A roads or motorways and it would kill you if driven properly tbh.

[Keir]

the 330 does not share the engine with the M3. the m3 is about an extra 100bhp!
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[drunkensod]

The bike will win because no fucker will let the BM pull out from any junctions.

Plus, during the 5o'clock rush he'll be stuck in traffic while you filter your way to the horizon.

[Kickstart]

Hi

Another vote for you winning up to 100, and him pulling past above that. Derestricted your real top speed will be around 130mph. Suspect in a roll on from 70~80 he would pull away.

All the best

Keith
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[Wave2k]

[sagalout]

BMW M Sport is basically a 330i tarted up with extras to make it look a bit like a proper M3. Still a quick car but nothing like an M3
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[mistergixer]

Another vote for '0-100 bike wins' here.
To guarantee your victory - just before the race starts, ask your Uncle to show you how the indicators work on his Bee-Em. Like most beemer owners, he won't have a fucking clue about indicating (as no BMW ever indicates, ever!), and in the meantime you can clear off into the distance.


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[loply]

From a standing start the 400 would be about 2 miles ahead of the BMW before the BMW exceeded the 400's top speed!

They would then continue along for about another 5 miles before the BMW eventually crept up on the 400 and slowly overtook it!

Definately the 400 offers more speed in more circumstances, and more thrills than the BMW.
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

The 2005 330 M sport has a 3 litre straight 4, the M3 of the same year has a 3.2 litre straight 6, so the motor's aren't even similar.

As has been said the M3 puts out 100 bhp more.

He's driving a tarted up 330Ci, get over it.

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[Kickstart]

Hi

Standing quarter mile times are within a couple of seconds of each other. The BMW would catch up pretty quickly.

All the best

Keith
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[Blau Zedong]

[mr jamez]

Seem to remember a friends E36 M3 evo being slower than a CBR4 with a porker at the helm, like others have said its only when you start getting to rather illegal speeds the BMW will start to reel you in.
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