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Pie-Roe
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: 33bhp restriction. A story for all. Reply with quote

Hi

After reading numerous encounters on here where police do not care about restriction, I forwent the whole paying £200 for some washers.

However my friend who had a zxr400, DID get his put in, and had a smash on sunday night. He somehow ended up on the wrong side of the road after another bike did a dodgy overtake, and had a head on collision with a car. After being rushed to hospital, the police informed him that his bike would be being taken to a recovery centre, and it will remain there until such time as a bike inspector has assessed it.

He got a phone call this morning, from a policewoman, Telling him that the assessor had assessed the bike and that it was good to see that it was restricted. Apparently they do check.

Just thought I'd let everyone know, seeing as it always is portrayed on here and other forums that the police are stupid and don't check.

Making me think about getting some little washers.

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PostPosted: 14:04 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope he's okay but from the way you describe it it sounds as though he was at fault for the accident and riding dangerously, if he's caused an accident which has injured someone else the police are likely to take it an awful lot more seriously. At the end of the day it boils down to if you ride sensibly, don't act like an idiot and don't crash stupidly then you'll be okay.
In my position if I had an accident I've given instructions to my next of kin that my bike and possessions are all to be recovered home immediately and whatever precautions needed taken, restrictor washers fitted/road legal can for example.
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just took my GSXR 400 to a dyno place, asked the guy to mark where it made 33bhp and then bodged a throttle stop myself. Very easy, took all of 10 minutes and works no problems. None of this £200 malarky.

Plus I've had a few ideas for how to make it stop anyone else from getting full throttle, but with the right technique, I can still get full throttle out of it. Hehe.
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

M1ghtyDUck wrote:
I just took my GSXR 400 to a dyno place, asked the guy to mark where it made 33bhp and then bodged a throttle stop myself. Very easy, took all of 10 minutes and works no problems. None of this £200 malarky.

Plus I've had a few ideas for how to make it stop anyone else from getting full throttle, but with the right technique, I can still get full throttle out of it. Hehe.


How did you make the throttle stop? Oh and how much did the dyno reading cost?

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PostPosted: 15:44 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Re: 33bhp restriction. A story for all. Reply with quote

pyroforlife wrote:
Apparently they do check.

1 checked against thousands never checked. Wink
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I paid £25 for a dyno run and print out.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got away with having no restriction for 2 years, it was after my restriction that I got pulled over for going well over 100mph.
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, they do check now and again.

It's up to each individual as to whether it's worth playing the numbers game.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've aways been restricted, but I did make my restrictor washers my self. For an hour or two in the garage and 40 quid for a dyno run it makes no sense to put yourself at risk.

Out of interest how quick can 33bhp get you assuming normal commuter bike eg Divvy 600??

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PostPosted: 18:25 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bittern wrote:
I've aways been restricted, but I did make my restrictor washers my self. For an hour or two in the garage and 40 quid for a dyno run it makes no sense to put yourself at risk.



You forget to mention that restriction generally damages the engine more than a de-restricted bike. It also 'makes sense' because 33bhp on a heavy bike can't be fun at all.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fahd wrote:
Bittern wrote:
I've aways been restricted, but I did make my restrictor washers my self. For an hour or two in the garage and 40 quid for a dyno run it makes no sense to put yourself at risk.



You forget to mention that restriction generally damages the engine more than a de-restricted bike.


How?

I know on some bikes it can make them foul the plugs faster, but that's about it, you can get a build up of crud on the valves too on some bikes. Well it did on my mille when that was restricted, but the dyno run when it was beening mapped for the power commander sorted that out.

I've not heard of perminate engine damage though.
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is always a risk, ive never heard of anyone checking, that doesnt mean they wont, risk is very very low though.
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bittern wrote:
I've aways been restricted, but I did make my restrictor washers my self. For an hour or two in the garage and 40 quid for a dyno run it makes no sense to put yourself at risk.

Out of interest how quick can 33bhp get you assuming normal commuter bike eg Divvy 600??

Rich


My restricted divvy will get up to 90 pretty easily but struggles to do much past that
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

wave2k wrote:
There is always a risk, ive never heard of anyone checking, that doesnt mean they wont, risk is very very low though.



Ste wrote:
pyroforlife wrote:
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Apparently they do check.


1 checked against thousands never checked. Wink



I know, I just thought as I rarely hear or read about it I'd post it up. Some people seem to get the impression that it doesn't ever happen. It wasn't meant to change peoples minds, just help them make a more informed judgement. Obviously I'm probably not going to change my mind, but I think like that. It just occured to me that ya know, joe bloggs might be in two minds, read all the stuff on here and think ah well it will never ever happen.

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PostPosted: 23:02 - 30 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bittern wrote:
Out of interest how quick can 33bhp get you


105mph flat on the tank. 95mph otherwise.

It has no balls.

I want my 100 ponies back plz.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 31 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

im probobly gonna be keeping them in my rvf until restriction is up, im only at half power and it still feels pretty quick, i can still do stupid speeds and corner well on it so not that huge a loss, granted i cant get up to 140 but i can get to 100 fairly quickly (indicates higher but 100 is more likely).

also im only 20 so if i get caught without restricters in its gonna mess up insurance in the future.

while on the topic of restriction, would you have to restrict your bike if you were abroad?
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 31 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think your missin the point, they checked his bike cos it was a bad crash, or the police who attended the scene wanted answers so had the bike checked for defects and legalitys.
You dont get pulled up for speeding and they then tell you its gettin checked cos they want to do you for speeding.
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PostPosted: 01:57 - 31 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just say you bought it restricted if they ain't in there sh!t happens.
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 31 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGee wrote:
Just say you bought it restricted if they ain't in there sh!t happens.


Copper: "Oh ok mate no worries, we believe you"

Yeah don't think it'll work Sad
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 31 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have no restrictors, and you crash your bike, crash it badly enough so they can't dyno it....problem solved.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 31 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

AngelGrinder wrote:
If you have no restrictors, and you crash your bike, crash it badly enough so they can't dyno it....problem solved.


Won't they be able to strip the bike down to search for a method of restriction (ie washers, throttle stop)?
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 31 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattHirst wrote:
AngelGrinder wrote:
If you have no restrictors, and you crash your bike, crash it badly enough so they can't dyno it....problem solved.


Won't they be able to strip the bike down to search for a method of restriction (ie washers, throttle stop)?


Yes. People who think that the only way to check a bike for a restriction is to dyno it, are wrong.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 31 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrow Stamp on the downpipes until they are snapped, then throw some large washers down there.

Arrow Stamp on throttle till its damaged in some way, then throw some plastic bits at it, and say it had a throttle stop on it
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 31 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

AngelGrinder wrote:
Arrow Stamp on the downpipes until they are snapped, then throw some large washers down there.

Arrow Stamp on throttle till its damaged in some way, then throw some plastic bits at it, and say it had a throttle stop on it


How are you going to manage this from the stretcher in the back of the ambulance? Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 31 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattEMulsion wrote:
AngelGrinder wrote:
Arrow Stamp on the downpipes until they are snapped, then throw some large washers down there.

Arrow Stamp on throttle till its damaged in some way, then throw some plastic bits at it, and say it had a throttle stop on it


How are you going to manage this from the stretcher in the back of the ambulance? Very Happy


Adrenaline Wink


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