really need advise on were i stand

[mackrilld]

Hello all in July 07 i brought a bike from bikers uk in north bassisly hampshire and has had countless problems from head gaskets to new raidiators all under warrenty but on thursday the engine sized. Eairlier that week i noticed there was air in the oil lines so i rang the garage up and said can i bring it down they said just disconect the hose and if any oil comes out its fine so i did that and there was some oil dripping out throught it was all ok so when the engine siezed i took it down there and they said they will ahve a look rang up today and they said they havent stripped it yet but because there is air in your oil line you have let it run out of oil so there will be no warrenty claim. Well i havent filled it up last month and there is still around half a tank in there. So please were do i stand is there any way to convince them that i did not let it run out of oil? sorry for long post and throughts will be much appreshiated thanks Dom

[Madmanx]

Is this a 2 stroke?
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[mackrilld]

yea 2 stroke aprilia rx 50

[Moonie]

Ah, if it's an Aprilia dealership expect the same kind of follow up service the ancient greeks got with the Trojan Horse
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[Madmanx]

Go to citizens advise or trading standards.
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[njd27]

I got my bike serviced there last week.

[mackrilld]

cheaz for the advise and does any 1 no a place for cheap aprilia parts cause if it does need rebild will need a cylinder head and piston probs thanks

[The Artist]

luckily those engines are used in pretty much all geared 50cc bikes so ebay or any moped or scooter shop should do them.

I think a piston kit is £20-£30 and barrel and head is about £100 depending on where you get it.

[J.K.R]

[The Artist]

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BARREL-PISTON-KIT-APRILIA-MX50-RS50-RX50-MX-RS-RX-50_W0QQitemZ200231203913QQihZ010QQcategoryZ10534QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

https://www.adrenalin-pedstop.com/p/DOPPLER-ER1-ALUMINIUM-CYLINDER-728.aspx

Thing is for £20 more you can get a big bore kit if you wanted.


https://www.adrenalin-pedstop.com/p/DERBI-D50B0-ENGINE-SENDA-RS-50-1394.aspx

[cal91]

for now i would get on the phone to trading standards ect. A little complaining goes along way, i know you may think your being an arse but honest it gets you places.
They will fix it, just drop it off and refuse to pick it up till its fixed :p or something along the lines. Its what my mum did it when her car had an accident and they touch painted a panel the wrong colour or something, it soon got done :p

fight it dont let them be dicks.

Oh and if the worst comes, a cylinder kit is what you need, go on ebay there not expensive and usally better than the originals lol.
They come with the gaskets, cyclinder and piston head. Its gonna be a arse to get off like because it sounds like the piston is welded to the cylinder

Good luck!
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[mackrilld]

tahnks for all the advice guys it been really helpfull only problem is i have a new rx with the DB05 engine in and fukin hard to get parts for lol

[bs16]

Get all your paperwork sorted:
Purchase Receipt.
Paperwork from previous repairs.
Phone bill showing call made before engine seized.

One important thing to consider are how you paid for the bike. If it was on HP or via a credit card then you could involve them as they have some liability. If necessary you can start a disputed payment claim with them which is a very good tactic if the dealer continually delays. Even if you only paid the deposit via credit card then as long as it was over £100 then you still have some protection.

Once you have all of this info then write to the dealer explaining what happened and ensure that you enclose copies of all the paperwork and send the letter via special delivery. From know on do everything via letters sent recorded/special delivery, and keep a diary of their contents, when they are sent etc. If the dealer phones you then immediately write down what was said and then write to them reminding them of what was said during the conversation.

Read up on the Supply and Sale of Goods Act 1994 - Clicky - as this is what covers your claim. Basically the goods have to be of satisfactory quality and if you can show that you have had numerous problems then you can actually reject the bike. The dealer will try anything to avoid this and should try and help you.

If they don't budge then it would be best to speak to Trading Standards and any Trade Bodies that the dealer is a member of. Also if there is any credit card/company involved then this is the stage to enter a disputed payment claim. The credit company would send you a form to fill in and if they think you are right they will take the money back from the Dealer, credit your account and enforce their dispute process. They then look at the info from both sides and if they agree with you then you keep the money and the Dealer gets the bike back, warts and all.

Alternatively you could just go down the Small Claims Court route, which is pretty cheap, does not need solicitors, and isn't that scary.

[Madmanx]

Remember to get the DNA report from the mechanic who did it's first service.
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[mackrilld]

hello all well basically there still saying it was my fault and there is nothing more they will do and said the cheapist option is £390 for a topend rebuild or what they recomend LOL a full engine rebuild costing £980. Because im nearly 17 i need to sell the bike very soon so ive had some quotes on parts and really want to no will i get more money for my bike with a full topend rebuild with standard aprilia parts costing £220 or the cheapest bore Kit costing £125 and all work will be done by me and my m8 whos a mechanic thanks alot Dom

[G]

Definitely be worth more with a standard top end on.

I'd still be chasing up the place you got it from, though.

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[Madmanx]

I think you had a massive airlock.
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[Finglonga]

[iooi]

To get anywhere you are going to have to get a independent report on the damage.
This will not be cheap.
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[mackrilld]

hi thanks for the comments and the bike has done around 8000 miles and havent really been in contact with trading standards yet

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[Madmanx]

£170 labour. That's about right. For a proffesional to do the job.
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