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TUBZ69
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 25 Jun 2008    Post subject: starting zx6r (2001) Reply with quote

its bin sitting for a few months with the tank off and emptied, ive connected the tank, filled it with bout 5litres of fuel, charged the battery and tryed to start it up, electrics work, alarm, lights (although the right hand headlight is dead!) indicators all work, but wont kick over yet. just the dreaded solunoid click!!
wot im thinking is prehaps there is fuck all fuel in the lines/carbs and therefore it will struggle to ignite atm, also wen i turned the key the lights all came on because i forgot to turn them off as this will drain power right?!! especially wen its guna need all the power it can giv wen startin a bike thats bin dry and sitting for a while.
so ive bin pumping the throttle to try an force some fuel in the lines and now im charging the battery again, and hopefully it will be gravy 2mora?
just wonderin if anyones got any thoughts/advice
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 25 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charge the battery tonight, don't bother pumping the throttle.

Is it 'coughing' at all trying to catch?

If you have it, try the position 'pri' for prime on the fuel tap.

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PostPosted: 15:43 - 25 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's not turning over at all then that means either the battery isn't properly charged, or the starter is fecked (unlikely). Remember that batteries can and do go bad when they've been left for a while, so you may need a new battery.

Give it a jump from a car - if she starts, take her for a good long ride. If the battery is still dead, get a new one.

And yes, try the 'prime' position if it has one, but if not it should still eventually pull fuel through on its own if you crank it over long enough.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 25 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

pyroforlife wrote:
Charge the battery tonight, don't bother pumping the throttle.

Is it 'coughing' at all trying to catch?

If you have it, try the position 'pri' for prime on the fuel tap.

Pyro


nope no coughing at all, just literally the solunoid relay clicking over, il try chargin it again and jumping it from the other halfs car and see if that works.
The fuel tap only has 'off' 'on' and 'res' no 'pri'
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 25 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBassJunky wrote:
If it's not turning over at all then that means either the battery isn't properly charged, or the starter is fecked (unlikely). Remember that batteries can and do go bad when they've been left for a while, so you may need a new battery.

Give it a jump from a car - if she starts, take her for a good long ride. If the battery is still dead, get a new one.

And yes, try the 'prime' position if it has one, but if not it should still eventually pull fuel through on its own if you crank it over long enough.


taking it out for a spin is out of the question as its not road worthy atm.
i got the battery brand new bout a yr ago, maybe less actauly, but only used it once to turn this bike over in a less rebuild guise about 4months or so ago and it started ok then (eventually ! ), so it has bin sitting doin nuthin for a while, but it isnt an old battery?

Fuel is gettin through think, i took the fuel filter on the fuel line off an blew through it, no shit in there, lines seem to be clear etc....
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 25 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say go for bypassing the starter solanoid. That will tell you if your solanoid or your starter is dead.

Are you sure all things like sidestand switches, neutral switches etc. have been reconnected?
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 25 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aikman666 wrote:
I'd say go for bypassing the starter solanoid. That will tell you if your solanoid or your starter is dead.

Are you sure all things like sidestand switches, neutral switches etc. have been reconnected?


yea i havent altered the bike electrically since i started it last, so should be same as, how do i bypass the solanoid?
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PostPosted: 06:36 - 26 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

TUBZ69 wrote:
i got the battery brand new bout a yr ago, maybe less actauly, but only used it once to turn this bike over in a less rebuild guise about 4months or so ago and it started ok then (eventually ! ), so it has bin sitting doin nuthin for a while, but it isnt an old battery?


Doesn't matter - if it's been sitting for ages then it could quite easily be buggered.

Especially if you charged it once and then let it run down. I have batteries that don't work any more because I did that to them.

Like I said - try jump-starting it and I bet it will run.
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 26 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBassJunky wrote:
TUBZ69 wrote:
i got the battery brand new bout a yr ago, maybe less actauly, but only used it once to turn this bike over in a less rebuild guise about 4months or so ago and it started ok then (eventually ! ), so it has bin sitting doin nuthin for a while, but it isnt an old battery?


Doesn't matter - if it's been sitting for ages then it could quite easily be buggered.

Especially if you charged it once and then let it run down. I have batteries that don't work any more because I did that to them.

Like I said - try jump-starting it and I bet it will run.


cock on it mate Thumbs Up , jumped it 2day and it fired up, a little rough to start, but came up to temp ok, fan kicked in bout 102c as it should. but i think battery is fooked, as wen i take the jump leads off the bike dies?

gear selection seems as little groggy ( ive fitted rearsets, and pulled the clutch in an knocked it into 1st and it struggled to go back to neutral?)

also sounds a little stupid, but with the engine idleing and in neutral the front sprocket is dead still as u would expect, but wen i played with the throttle a bit it moved in time with the revs speeding up as i rev higher as if it were in gear? is that right?! i havent got the chain connected atm obviously....
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 26 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nowt wrong with the sprocket moving when you blip the throttle in Neutral, it's a perfectly normal thing to happen. Nowt to worry about there.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 27 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont worry about the sprocket moving a little as mentioned.

My ZX6R is mint and isnt the best starting bike in the worl. Apparently the best and most common way to get it going is to up the throttle idle (down by your left poking up from the fairing). This doesnt seem like a great idea to me, so half choke and a small amount of throttle seem to work, which isnt ideal but hey ho.
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 27 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok cool, yea im pretty sure it was the battery anyways, seems to idle fine etc...
thanx for the help
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