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Itchy
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 22 Jun 2008    Post subject: Battery Reply with quote

I've never bought a new battery, I tend to find them in job lots of spares I tend to buy or when stripping bikes keep the battery , they fire up the NTV in less than a couple spins on the starter I rate it as a good battery.

I reckon I need a new one for the CBR600FX, (its a bosch battery I deep cycled when the NTV went total loss) I'm pretty sure I don't want a bog standard lead acid battery.

https://www.mdsbattery.co.uk/shop/productprofile.asp?Model=&ProductGroupID=976&Brand=&DepartmentName=&DepartmentID=

It says AGM battery, which says Gel battery at the bottom , being a complete nunce when it comes to batteries, with a Gel battery do you still need acid packs?.

As said I've never bought a new battery before and assumed Gel meant it came sealed up you charge it for a couple hours and stick it in the bike without having to put acid in.

So I think I'm wrong right in that gel batteries still do need acid putting into them but only once to erm activate them , rather than the ancient sort where you opened up holes in the top of them (which contained glass marbles) and you put distilled water in?.

Somebody from London once nearly sold me a battery and we fell out hence this is a closed avenue to battery purchase , and the Davidsilver battery I'm not sure what it happens to be a gel or a bog standard lead acid battery.

Any thoughts?

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PostPosted: 12:06 - 22 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

AGM and Gel batteries are two completely different things, but they often get confused. This one will probably be AGM as stated. You can't really go wrong with AGM batteries - they are long lasting and practically indestructible. The one thing you do need to be careful of is that if you ever do flatten it, then recharge it very slowly with a trickle charger.

It'll arrive in a box sealed, filled, fully charged and ready to go.

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PostPosted: 13:49 - 22 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long you going to keep the bike? If not long get a lead acid/gel if longer get a AGM. I doubt you will ever need to replace it again.
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 22 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys I'll probably order it later on today, £35ish isn't too bad for a battery , I saw a similar one in a shop for £55.
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 30 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It arrived a few days ago and I've only just gotten round to opening the box.


So I rip the seal off put the acid in seal it up , then stick it on a trickle charger for say 5 hours @ 0.5amps for 2.5amps then stick it in the bike? .

It'd kind of be bad to deep cycle it on its first use me thinks...
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 30 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't sound like an AGM battery as they come sealed and fully charged out of the box??!!?? Shocked Confused
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 30 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All Varta YT series "Liquifix" batteries use AGM technology which consists of an Absorbent Glass-fibre Matting between the lead plates inside the battery. This material absorbs and stabilises the electrolyte so the battery can be mounted in any orientation and also allows higher discharge rates without causing internal damage to the battery. AGM batteries are often referred to as “Gel” batteries because the electrolyte appears to be solid but they are also sometimes known as “Dry” or “Sealed” batteries.


Hmm Confused

So should I bring my trusty Yuasa NTV650 battery (which is at least 4 years old) , my Bosch battery which has been deep cycled to nothing once and doesn't hold a charge all the time or activate this one? , I have 4 more days till I'm off to Spain?

Hold on I see the spin here , it says AGM technology not AGM, checking out AGM £250 for an oddessy battery!, looks equivilant to my Yuasa battery in the NTV..
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 30 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
checking out AGM £250 for an oddessy battery!,


Got a Hawker Odyssey for my 1150GS for £65 from Cheshire Batteries, the most expensive one was only around £80. Shocked
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PostPosted: 08:27 - 01 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was having real problems with batteries on my ZX6. They were not holding a charge so I assumed that it was a fault on the bike rather than the battery. I eventually bought an Odyssey and not had a problem since.
Got it from https://carrotcycles.co.uk/ PC310 was £60
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