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PostPosted: 11:43 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Sports bike + Pillion? Reply with quote

Now then lads, i'm considering a change in bike, few different ideas and what not and one is to a sports 600 , i currently ride a cbr 600f while its ok it doesnt excell in any area so one of my options is more of a sport 600 like a 600 RR or similar moreso for looks if im honest. I take the mrs's on the back quite a bit - question is would the RR be absolute agony for her as people make out or is it not really that bad?
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it depends on your missus tbh. I have a GSXR K5 1000 and, like you, take the missus out a lot. She has no problem at all, within reason. We tend to stop about every hour or two for a smoke etc. She is quite small though, size 8 and 5' 5".


No sports bike is great for a pillion, but not a disaster either. My advice would be get into a dealers and both have a sit on some.
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean she's comfy as hell on my 600f i cramp up before she does but im 6'3 so it limits me to bikes sort of, shes only size 10 5'6ish so i think she'd be ok but the stereotype of any sports bike pillion = agony lol.
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both go and have a look and try the bikes

Depends on the sports bike and the length of her legs, are they longer rather than shorter or shorter rather than longer ( if that makes sense )

As a mate of mine bought her other half a bike but she is only 4' 11" and he is 6' 3" you can see the problem although 1 bike was good for him it wasnt good for her as the pillion they settled for a Moto Guzzi 1100
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be worth having a sit on an old shape RSV Millie too. Its not quite in your initial ball park, but its most certainly about as roomy and comfy as 'modern' sports bikes get. That and the SRAD were about as big as the sportier bikes ever got I think.

If you really want to make the missus comfortable, get a Futura though Wink
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

SRADs are excellent for pillions. The worst bit about sports bike on pillions is when the pillion pad is so small and you sit so high up, so you're in the wind blast, and raising the centre of gravity.

But then an SRAD isn't much sportier than a CBR600F.

Worth thinking about though.

I've ridden for a while as pillion on an R6, and it was comfortable enough, but wasn't fun.

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PostPosted: 13:46 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't fit on the original gixer 6's so they're out the window lol the newer ones are bit more roomy i found. My mrs is quite short though so even bein perched a lot higher on a sportier bike she probably wouldnt be further up than me so windblast isnt so much of an issue.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm the same height as you and I found the SRAD one of the more comfortable bikes I've ridden. But then I'm quite lanky with it.

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PostPosted: 14:00 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/DeclanJ/media.jpg is that the srad yr on about? i nearly broke my legs tryin to get my feet on the pegs lol.
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on how much you want to compromise , down Bilbao one of the English riders I met was sharing an R6 , she managed ok...

But I'd probably go the whole hog and get a hypersports , blackbird ZZR1200 , all of which have a seat similar to the CBR600F , and grab rails.

Though depends what you mean by sportiness, tbh
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that's the SRAD I was talking about, I rode an SRAD for 6 months or so last year.

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PostPosted: 14:07 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Depends on how much you want to compromise , down Bilbao one of the English riders I met was sharing an R6 , she managed ok...

But I'd probably go the whole hog and get a hypersports , blackbird ZZR1200 , all of which have a seat similar to the CBR600F , and grab rails.

Though depends what you mean by sportiness, tbh


TBH i bought my 600f for comfort also its my first bike so its fairly forgiving, but the f isnt a patch on the looks of a 'proper' sporty bike like an r6 or a 600rr, i wont be happy till i have one of the lata lol, just got to cater for the mrs as she probably does 50-100mile a week on the back.
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously though if you are considering a CBR600RR have a go on a 2004-5 model , they have a nuclear bomb sized hole in the mid range , the area where most people ride at. And it is very noticable , Wave2k has stories about this.
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you simply want a more interesting bike, have you considered going down the muscle bike route? ZRX1100s and GSX1300s are pretty tasty, and a ton more comfortable.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've considered a z1000 if you call that a muscle bike but i still fancy something sporty and nimble.
To itchy - lack of mid range?
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Z1000s are cool.

And by lack of midrange he means the power dips in the middle of the rev range. Which will become annoying.

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PostPosted: 16:41 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sports bikes may have pillion seats and pegs but they are designed for the rider only. If you take pillions that often I'd consider f*ckin' the sports bikes off all together.
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seb wrote:
Might be worth having a sit on an old shape RSV Millie too. Its not quite in your initial ball park, but its most certainly about as roomy and comfy as 'modern' sports bikes get.



You think so? I thought it had one of the weirdest riding positions I've tried.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leg room tends to be my biggest issue, even on my old ZZR I could bang my shins on the fairing pretty easily. I had no issues on the older shape RSV whilst my Futura (which has very similar pegs but with higher bars) is the most comfortable bike I've ridden.

I'm just about flatfooted on both bikes with a 33 inch or so inseam if thats any help.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, I'm a 34 seam and can flat foot the RSV, but I felt you need shoulders like a big cat to get comfortable.

Shoulders hunched back and together, with elbows pointed to the ground tucked in against the tank and wrists crooked forwards...

Everybody is different though ain't they, and you can never tell if you if you'll get on with it just because someone else did...

Nice bikes though, and the missus would certainly like the vibes Laughing

I find the problem with taking people on the back of a recent sports bike is they don't know how to sit on the buggers. The trouble with mine for example is the rear seat when fitted is about an inch or two higher than mine, couple this with the fact you are hunched over licking the yoke and its an uncomfortable stretch for them to hold onto you.

To make matters worse, they no longer have grab rails just a stupid wee strap between the legs which if you brake hard they often end up thumping into the back of you (not bad if they have big boobies)

I'm looking at getting a renntec grab rail for mine.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

vt6 wrote:

TBH i bought my 600f for comfort also its my first bike so its fairly forgiving, but the f isnt a patch on the looks of a 'proper' sporty bike like an r6 or a 600rr, i wont be happy till i have one of the lata lol, just got to cater for the mrs as she probably does 50-100mile a week on the back.


To be honest you are probably much better of going down the two bikes route, one for pootling with the Mrs on and one for when you need to do proper sporty.

I know it will be more expensive but from what you have said I cannot see you scratching the itch for a 'proper' sports bike and having good pillion provision in just one bike.

If you do manage to convince your Mrs its a good idea let me know how you did it! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sat on the back of a ZX9R the other day, it was awful . Perched ridiculously high, utter crap. I'd rather be a pillion on the back of my ER any day.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

kawakid wrote:
Sat on the back of a ZX9R the other day, it was awful . Perched ridiculously high, utter crap. I'd rather be a pillion on the back of my ER any day.


At least the 9R has pillion rails , I've only ever seen 1 ZX10R with a pillion rail mod on it...
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a renntec rack on the gixer, the wife is fine with it. She has no problem from the wind blast and is comfy as.
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 09 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Him wrote:
vt6 wrote:

TBH i bought my 600f for comfort also its my first bike so its fairly forgiving, but the f isnt a patch on the looks of a 'proper' sporty bike like an r6 or a 600rr, i wont be happy till i have one of the lata lol, just got to cater for the mrs as she probably does 50-100mile a week on the back.


To be honest you are probably much better of going down the two bikes route, one for pootling with the Mrs on and one for when you need to do proper sporty.

I know it will be more expensive but from what you have said I cannot see you scratching the itch for a 'proper' sports bike and having good pillion provision in just one bike.

If you do manage to convince your Mrs its a good idea let me know how you did it! Very Happy


Lol i'll have a good go at convincing. I dont think i could justify having two road bikes that are v.similar though, id much prefer a sport bike for road and then use the money id spend on something comfier to get a track bike, so i think the two bike jobby is out, just a pity i cant have best of both worlds lol.
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