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PostPosted: 15:11 - 05 Sep 2008    Post subject: speed helicopter Reply with quote

Speed checks carried out by the £1000-an-hour chopper will mainly be on motorbike riders, officers have indicated.

what an absolute waste of money:P amazing!
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2008/september/1-7/sep0208-essex-to-use-helicopter-to-target-bikes/?R=EPI-102639
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 05 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evil or Very Mad Neutral Thumbs Down i swear England is such a anti bike country!
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 05 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

is spending 1000 per hour justified to catch speeders?a very small amount of speeders..out of the group of road users being the smallest of them all Laughing what a seriously big waste of time Laughing the government/country makes me laugh more each day
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 05 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's ok it's targeting southerners. Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 05 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats ok then! wouldt want to be paying for it and getting what you paid for at the same time!being caught by the fucker Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 05 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do that round here on a wednesday when most of the bikers are out, they also bring the undercover bike/cars out a bit ott really.
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 05 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:06 - 05 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I swear i got followed by one of these the other month. May have been coincidence, luckily I stayed a good boy after noticing it Laughing

Do they have any helicoptors up north for this or do they use common sence and see its not worth the money?
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 05 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick606 wrote:
They do that round here on a wednesday when most of the bikers are out, they also bring the undercover bike/cars out a bit ott really.

Wednesday is overtime day.
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 06 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Essex_Mike wrote:
I swear i got followed by one of these the other month. May have been coincidence, luckily I stayed a good boy after noticing it Laughing

Do they have any helicoptors up north for this or do they use common sence and see its not worth the money?


Yep Wednesdays and Sundays mostly
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 06 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a waste of money Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 06 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

wotcha.

It's from MCN - hence a load of bollocks.

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PostPosted: 21:33 - 06 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lone-Wolf wrote:
It's from MCN - hence a load of bollocks.


I agree, I stopped reading MCN because every article seems to predict biking apocalypse Confused.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 07 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Helicopter can keep up with a speeding bike and has the advantage of a much greater spread of vision than a patrol car that struggles to catch a cold, so I can see the principle behind their thinking.

As usual though it's yet another scaremongering story from the MCN.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 09 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lone-Wolf wrote:
wotcha.

It's from MCN - hence a load of bollocks.

HTH


Slightly more reputable source:

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/7582949.stm

although it's possible someone at the bbc read mcn for the story...
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 09 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was in the Papers a while back, and it was saying it was aimed at motorists.....

Funny how when reported in diffrent mags they take a diffrent tack.

I think it will be more aimed at catching the stupid riders/drivers who deserve to get caught by their reckless road use.
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PostPosted: 07:33 - 10 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i do feel its a waste of money i appreciate that police helicopters have there uses, but to send them out to catch speeders, come on thats a waste of money and also i have no doubt my taxes will pay for there carbon foot print,

I would rather they spent money on air ambulances as these rely on some charity, but then no doubt some twat would say if we can stop people speeding it will reduce accidents and the air ambulance wont be required, and that in itself is a load of old tosh accidents always happen its life,

i did read some time ago 3 bikers were caught speeding something like a whooping 75mph in a national speed limit if i remember correctly, they got nicked by a chopper so thats a combined 180 quid fine but take out all the wages of the people that have to process the paper work associated with the offence, pay for the jungle juice in the chopper, and i reckon there running at a loss......................well what can i say..................................... utter fuck wits.................................i wish my business could waste as much money, as at the end of the day its just a business.

i apologies for my ramblings Smile
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 10 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

base wrote:
i do feel its a waste of money i appreciate that police helicopters have there uses, but to send them out to catch speeders


I think they're meant to do the speeding checks whenever they're in the air but have no specific task. Which of course on the balance sheet makes it look like extra cash - the helicopter would've been up anyway, now they catch an average of x speeders per hour to offset the cost somewhat.

iooi wrote:
I think it will be more aimed at catching the stupid riders/drivers who deserve to get caught by their reckless road use.


I doubt that very much - as with the rest of the semi-automated road law enforcement it only really affects legitimate road users. From watching far too many "police, stop!" type programs I get the impression that most of the truly reckless drivers tend not to have their car registered or insurance or any means of tracing them. So once again, it seems like a way of hammering the 'average' motorist.
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 10 Sep 2008    Post subject: JUST STUPID! Reply with quote

I agree with "BASE" it really frustrates me how they can spend so much money on a stupid police ROFL motorbike Speed Chopper and not on a air ambulance which will save more life's than that stupid flying dickhead thing!!! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

sorry about that, but it is wrong, some of the comments on the link are right too, such as charity's have to beg for funds from the public for the Air chopper while the police one just takes the money out of out pay checks!!!
urgh. we should start a petition or something!!! saying what we think about a £1000 hour chopper to reduce the small minority of bikers who go over 30mph on the roads Surprised well cars do it to (wait even police do when there on patrol but no one complains at them we just pay them to do it!!!!)

£1000 an hour its just stupid amount of money if they fly for lets say 7 hours in a day 7 days a week that's (pulls out calculator.....) that's £49000 in one week! lets do that for a month £212333.33 (times weekly by 52 and divided by 12) and for a year £2547999.9.
now that is just plain stupid!!!!


now i know they wont go up 7 hours a day and 7 days a week, but its still stupid
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PostPosted: 05:02 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Re: JUST STUPID! Reply with quote

chrisdd wrote:

urgh. we should start a petition or something!!! saying what we think about a £1000 hour chopper to reduce the small minority of bikers who go over 30mph on the roads Surprised well cars do it to


Once again its MCM and their bad & late reporting.............. As i & daemonoid said this was up a good while ago and its NOT bikes they are targeting. Its ALL road users.
Would not be much of a article in the mcm if it was about them catching speeding cars would it...
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 12 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live on the A184 between Great Dunmow and Ongar and every post has the helicopter sign, but the A120 dual carriageway from Braintree to Stansted runs pararell so guess what bit of airspace Kojak with his kodak will occupy. They tend to fly between 4pm and 7pm weekdays and most sunny / dry weekends and just to be on the safe side when it's not airborne they put a scamera van between High Roding and Great Dunmow pointing just at the point where you come round the S bends onto the three mile straight Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 08:28 - 07 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no doubt that using a helicopter to catch speeders is expensive and that the revenue raised from speeding fines is never going to cover the operating costs of using aircraft in this way.

However the point of using measures like this is to reduce everyones speed and therefore the number of speed related accidents. Every fatal accident is estimated to cost the taxpayer an average of one million pounds.If using a helicopter prevents even a few accidents then it is money well spent.


On the carbon footprint issue, yes a helicopter uses a lot of fuel and isn't very green, however a vehicle traveling at 85mph on the motorway uses 25% more fuel than it would at 70mph, again if everyone slowed down due to the presence of the helicopter then there would be a net saving of fuel overall.

Police forces can only justify measures like this because there are so many people on the road who are willing to put their own lives and the lives of others at risk for an adrenaline rush. If you don't break the law then you have nothing to fear.


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PostPosted: 10:23 - 07 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have been using them up the peaks and in Wales for years.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 07 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

fat freddys cat wrote:
There's no doubt that using a helicopter to catch speeders is expensive and that the revenue raised from speeding fines is never going to cover the operating costs of using aircraft in this way.

However the point of using measures like this is to reduce everyones speed and therefore the number of speed related accidents. Every fatal accident is estimated to cost the taxpayer an average of one million pounds.If using a helicopter prevents even a few accidents then it is money well spent.


On the carbon footprint issue, yes a helicopter uses a lot of fuel and isn't very green, however a vehicle traveling at 85mph on the motorway uses 25% more fuel than it would at 70mph, again if everyone slowed down due to the presence of the helicopter then there would be a net saving of fuel overall.

Police forces can only justify measures like this because there are so many people on the road who are willing to put their own lives and the lives of others at risk for an adrenaline rush. If you don't break the law then you have nothing to fear.


https://www.driveandsurvive.co.uk/cont5.htm


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PostPosted: 10:43 - 07 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well im form Slovakia ( economicly far behind UK) and we have helicopters checking speed for 3-4 years now, nothing new. Especialy bad for bikers. They are not chasing anyone, they are just in one place for half an hour, still, just observing and giving infos to the police on the roads, so they know who to stop, after about halfanhour they change position. They are always cops on both sides of road they watching. I get cought ones in the car, they have proof on videocamera and i was speeding 60km/h more than litmit ( 90kmh and i was going 150), so there are no points to gain( yet) and i got a big fine of 5000Sk, ( about 150 pounds) [ lot of money back home, half of month salary].
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