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big d
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 12 Sep 2008    Post subject: re-formatting external hdd's Reply with quote

i have just bought a maxtor 180gb portable hdd

i need to format it to fat32 but dont know how
im running vista on my pc

any help would be highly appreciated

thanks dan
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 12 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think, if you plug it in and right click on my computer and select 'manage' (or similar) and go to disc management there will be an option in there.
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 12 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks ill give it a try
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 12 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why FAT32? It's so outdated and inefficient.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 12 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use NTFS file formatting, FAT32 has problems with large files and is slower Thumbs Up, unless its a MAC? I think they have problems with NTFS, but I may be wrong.

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PostPosted: 14:04 - 12 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imagine it would be for compatiblity.
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 12 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nufkamp wrote:
Why FAT32? It's so outdated and inefficient.


Sorry i should of explained why.

i just bought a new hard drive for my ps3 and was planning to move everything onto the portable hdd and then put it back onto the new one to save losing all the files,
but from what i've heard the portable has to be formatted in fat32

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PostPosted: 16:19 - 12 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doh! Just remembered there is a 32 gig size limit for FAT32, so I guess your only option is to use Partition Magic and create a partiton no bigger than this. You should then have the option to format to FAT32 from within Windows.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 12 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

FAT is also cross-platform friendly.
Not everything revolves around the world of windows.
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PostPosted: 04:05 - 13 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly, percentage-wise, I think you'll find it does. All camera, printer, etc manufactureres assume its going on a Windowz box so all drivers and support apps are in this flavour. As to what filesystem the PS3 uses I have no idea, but the OP is of the impression that FAT32 will suit his needs, a filesystem introduced with, erm, Windows. Wink
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PostPosted: 05:38 - 13 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luke wrote:
Use NTFS file formatting, FAT32 has problems with large files and is slower Thumbs Up, unless its a MAC? I think they have problems with NTFS, but I may be wrong.

Luke


Macs can read from NTFS drives but not write to them..

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PostPosted: 05:39 - 13 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
I think, if you plug it in and right click on my computer and select 'manage' (or similar) and go to disc management there will be an option in there.


Not for FAT32 this size. You will need a 3rd party tool..

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PostPosted: 22:44 - 14 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nufkamp wrote:

Doh! Just remembered there is a 32 gig size limit for FAT32, so I guess your only option is to use Partition Magic and create a partiton no bigger than this. You should then have the option to format to FAT32 from within Windows.


This is by Microsofts design, and only applies to windows. This limitation is removed using other OS's or third party formatters.


Nufkamp wrote:
Sadly, percentage-wise, I think you'll find it does. All camera, printer, etc manufactureres assume its going on a Windowz box so all drivers and support apps are in this flavour. As to what filesystem the PS3 uses I have no idea, but the OP is of the impression that FAT32 will suit his needs, a filesystem introduced with, erm, Windows. Wink

Most removable media has FAT as the filesystem, this includes SD and compactflash to name a few. The drivers and apps don't come into it as they are OS specific.
From wiki:
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File system
Like other flash card technologies, most SD cards ship preformatted with the FAT or FAT 32 file system. The ubiquity of this file system allows the card to be accessed on virtually any host device with an SD reader. Also, standard FAT maintenance utilities (e.g. ScanDisk) can be used to repair or retrieve corrupted data. However, because the card appears as a removable hard drive to the host system, the card can be reformatted to any file system supported by the operating system.


Windows 95b was the first to be released with FAT32 but was certainly not the first to be able to utilise it and make use of it.

To answer the OP.
The filesystem used on an external hard drive for the PS3 is FAT32.(NTFS will not work).
I think you have to add a couple of folders as well, been a while since I did it.
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 15 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nufkamp wrote:
Doh! Just remembered there is a 32 gig size limit for FAT32, so I guess your only option is to use Partition Magic and create a partiton no bigger than this. You should then have the option to format to FAT32 from within Windows.


Thought FAT32 could go to 2TB or even 8TB when using 2k clusters. The biggest file you can put on a FAT32 volume is 4GB.

Here's a free Linux Live CD with the software you need to repartition/format your drive: https://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php

It's a bit like Partition Magic in the way it looks/feels.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 15 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

neil.martin wrote:

Thought FAT32 could go to 2TB or even 8TB when using 2k clusters. The biggest file you can put on a FAT32 volume is 4GB.

Here's a free Linux Live CD with the software you need to repartition/format your drive: https://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php

It's a bit like Partition Magic in the way it looks/feels.

You are correct.
The 32GB limit was self imposed by Microsoft so that eveyone would use NTFS.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 18 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure if this is still active I was just having a read...

From looking round the web the PS3 uses an encrypted file system as you can place any unformatted drive into the unit and it will format it in what seems to be a linux style setup

The command it appears to run is this livecd / # mkfs.ext3 -j /dev/sda1

this is what the linux live cd uses when you install it to a ps3. The Hypervisor sony use to mask the actual hardware from the linux user seems to pass commands from the linux install to the hardware and vice versa. We found this out at work as we wanted to buy about 70 Ps3's and use them for a Citrix dev farm, no such luck!

The web bods are saying that sony wont tell anyone what it uses as rightly so its the first step to cracking the file system and therefore cracking the Ps3.

the same thing happened when the XBOXMOD team cracked the 360 I think they used a game save from star wars KOTOR to access the code and create the firmware flash for the dvd drive (or so I've read)

Maybe slighlty off topic but interesting to some Wink

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