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McJamweasel
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Upscaling DVD player & HDMI cable Reply with quote
I'll be getting a 1080p TV soon and will need a new DVD player to go with it to make use of the HD, anyone got any recommendations for an upscaling player? Anything that I need to look out for when I get one?

Also, are the expensive HDMI cables [i]really[/] worth the extra? Especially when the setup isn't exactly going to be top notch anyway.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Re: Upscaling DVD player & HDMI cable Reply with quote
McJamweasel wrote:
I'll be getting a 1080p TV soon and will need a new DVD player to go with it to make use of the HD

Woooooooooooooooah there!

Unnecessary. The TV upscales the DVD itself, otherwise you'd be looking at it as a tiny picture in the middle of the HD screen. An upscaling DVD player just upscales the picture before the TV, if the TV receives a SD picture then it just upscales it itself.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
What Carvell said, or you could just buy a PS3, and enjoy region-free, future-proof Blu Ray lovelyness. Cool

It plays DVD's too.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
I was under the impression that it was better to upscale at the player rather than at the TV end, is this not the case?
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
McJamweasel wrote:
I was under the impression that it was better to upscale at the player rather than at the TV end, is this not the case?


I was under the impression it made very little difference.....
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Whoa!

What the cocks are you all talking about?

Upscaling DVD players work, and are great, I have an Sony RDRHX870 and it's a fantastic piece of kit. Basically they use algorithms to convert a 480p image to a 1080p image, this means they generate more pixels using 'guesses'.
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 18 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Toby R wrote:
Basically they use algorithms to convert a 480p image to a 1080p image, this means they generate more pixels using 'guesses'.


480p is crap, standard def is 576p, anyway, surely the processor in the tv works in precisely the same way....
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 18 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
I thought it was 576i? In which case 480p would be better?

I say that cause on the Wii TV settings 576i is normal and HDTV mode is in 480p.
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 18 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Toby R wrote:
Upscaling DVD players work, and are great, I have an Sony RDRHX870 and it's a fantastic piece of kit. Basically they use algorithms to convert a 480p image to a 1080p image, this means they generate more pixels using 'guesses'.

You've just described exactly what the TV does. Uses an algorithm to convert a 480p image to a 1080p image.
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PostPosted: 06:49 - 19 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
carvell wrote:
Toby R wrote:
Upscaling DVD players work, and are great, I have an Sony RDRHX870 and it's a fantastic piece of kit. Basically they use algorithms to convert a 480p image to a 1080p image, this means they generate more pixels using 'guesses'.

You've just described exactly what the TV does. Uses an algorithm to convert a 480p image to a 1080p image.


Yes, but the DVD player does it much better Wink

(Doh, you're right 576 for PAL).

The upscaler on a DVD player (If you spend the money) will generally be much better than the TV's.

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PostPosted: 19:32 - 19 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jon B wrote:
I thought it was 576i? .


You're right, my bad, 480p wouldn't be a whole lot better, but it would appear "smoother"
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 20 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Toby R wrote:
Yes, but the DVD player does it much better Wink

Just depends.

You spend £1,000 on a 37" TV and £60 on a DVD player then I suspect the TV would be better. Budget TV and top of the range DVD player and I should think the DVD player would be better.
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 20 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Big_Ham wrote:
What Carvell said, or you could just buy a PS3, and enjoy region-free, future-proof Blu Ray lovelyness. Cool

It plays DVD's too.


exactly what he said get a ps3 does 1080p upscales dvd's and play blue ray i have a 1080i sharp 32inch had ps3 on it for a while the blueray blew me away and the dvd's looked top !
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 21 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
carvell wrote:
Toby R wrote:
Yes, but the DVD player does it much better Wink

Just depends.

You spend £1,000 on a 37" TV and £60 on a DVD player then I suspect the TV would be better. Budget TV and top of the range DVD player and I should think the DVD player would be better.


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