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leigh3292
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: upjetting Reply with quote

ive got a gilera smt 50 , i want to upjet it, wat wud the consequences be if i upjet it and also if i get a performance exhaust on it ?
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would use more petrol and take you ages to jet it correctly, you'd probably fuck its performance up. Save you time an effort for a bigger bike or car.
Ow btw we have a workshop section too, where this kind of belongs to be.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay lol and wat cud i do to make it faster or isnt it worth it on a 50
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Re: upjetting Reply with quote

leigh3292 wrote:
ive got a gilera smt 50 , i want to upjet it, wat wud the consequences be if i upjet it and also if i get a performance exhaust on it ?


So...

You want to 'upjet' it... but you have no idea what it will do to the bike?

The term is 'rejet' and you only do it in combination with other modifications. And we have a Workshop section for questions like that.

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PostPosted: 14:28 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i no but cant find that workshop thing!
so wat could i do tell me wat i can do to it ?
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

leigh3292 wrote:
i no but cant find that workshop thing!
so wat could i do tell me wat i can do to it ?


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PostPosted: 14:56 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

:S wat are u on about thats nothing to do with wat i asked lol
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

leigh3292 wrote:
i no but cant find that workshop thing!
so wat could i do tell me wat i can do to it ?


I'm 'on' Telling you that you need to ask in the workshop. And write in English if you can.
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I CANT find the workshop tho and iam writing in english , i only wanted to find out stuff maybe il go somewhere else who helps and are polite Cool
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should ask your long lost relation speedfight2 50cc https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=156298
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You sir are an idiot.

If your bike is standard then it is set up correctly. If you upjet it then you will be running it rich. Only when you add parts too it, like a sports exhaust then you should upjet etc etc. But I bet it has gone in one ear and out the other and you'll ask again you numpty
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

leigh3292 wrote:
I CANT find the workshop tho and iam writing in english , i only wanted to find out stuff maybe il go somewhere else who helps and are polite Cool


I am being perfectly polite, and my picture I posted has directions to the workshop.

Ok, because you cannot understand simple instructions like 'Ask in the workshop section' then I will answer your question.

Rejetting is done when other modifications are done to the engine that make the fuelling either richer than standard or leaner than standard. Usually its leaner.

Fitting a sports exhaust, derestricting, fitting a 'performance' air filter, tuning and other modifications usually make the mixture leaner. This means you need a bigger jet.

When this is done, it usually needs setting up on a dynamometer (which is like a rolling road) Or, it needs setting up using frequent plug chops. Plug chops work, but IMO they can be a bit dangerous because you can run the bike too lean and heat seize. If this happens when you are riding you need to be quick on your clutch hand otherwise you'll be spat off into the street.

A plug chop is a method of examining the mixture of a bike. It involves riding the bike a bit, and then removing the spark plug and examining it. If it is black and oily you are running too rich and need to lower the needle or swap the main jet for a smaller one. If it is white in colour then it is running too lean and you need to raise the needle or increase the size of the main jet. You want to aim for the plugs to be a tan colour. This cannot easily be done by an amateur though, and it won't get you that much more performance on a 50cc. If it isn't done properly or not done at all, then you could seize the bike.

My personal opinion on this is that you should wait until you are 17 and buy a 125. Or you can do your test.

This still does not mean that you asked a proper question, or asked it in the correct section or that you are actually speaking English.

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PostPosted: 15:13 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

leigh3292 wrote:
tho and iam writing in english , Cool


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PostPosted: 15:16 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool people Thumbs Up
and i am getting a performance exhaust thank you very much
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right get a performance exhaust.

Then see how it performs. Then buy jets in ranges of 5-10.

For example you may have a 70 in there now....

Buy 80, 90, 100

Try them all and then try 95 if 90 isn't right and 100 is boggy.

It's a guessing game.

The jet is the valve type thing that allows petrol through to the carb.

Too small and underpowered, too big and boggy performance.

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PostPosted: 16:03 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay thanks for the advice
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

leigh3292 wrote:
okay lol and wat cud i do to make it faster


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PostPosted: 20:58 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bazza, see my reply to the OP's thread in workshop Razz
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bazza, see my reply to the OP's thread in workshop Razz


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PostPosted: 21:15 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fnatic wrote:
Right get a performance exhaust.

Then see how it performs. Then buy jets in ranges of 5-10.

For example you may have a 70 in there now....

Buy 80, 90, 100

Try them all and then try 95 if 90 isn't right and 100 is boggy.

It's a guessing game.

The jet is the valve type thing that allows petrol through to the carb.
Run it hard and lean your pistom will melt BTW.
Too small and underpowered, too big and boggy performance.

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PostPosted: 21:47 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jefr0-CBR6 wrote:
You sir are an idiot.

If your bike is standard then it is set up correctly. If you upjet it then you will be running it rich. Only when you add parts too it, like a sports exhaust then you should upjet etc etc. But I bet it has gone in one ear and out the other and you'll ask again you numpty


ffs!!!

he only asked a question, not everyone knows everything like you do lol
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fnatic wrote:
Right get a performance exhaust.

Then see how it performs. Then buy jets in ranges of 5-10.

For example you may have a 70 in there now....

Buy 80, 90, 100

Try them all and then try 95 if 90 isn't right and 100 is boggy.

It's a guessing game.

The jet is the valve type thing that allows petrol through to the carb.

Too small and underpowered, too big and boggy performance.

*I Think* Thumbs Up


there is your near on correct answer

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a good starting point is to leave as is until you mod it.
fit your exhaust.
find your carb size in mm's.
multiply it by 5 and that will be slightly over the jet size you will need.

i.e. 18mm carb x 5 = 90 jet.... i would fit 85 and it will be very close.

before anyone jumps on me i have used that method since i was 16 in 1977 lol.
including setting up my karts i used to race Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 04:29 - 18 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

rotax81 wrote:
Jefr0-CBR6 wrote:
You sir are an idiot.

If your bike is standard then it is set up correctly. If you upjet it then you will be running it rich. Only when you add parts too it, like a sports exhaust then you should upjet etc etc. But I bet it has gone in one ear and out the other and you'll ask again you numpty


ffs!!!

he only asked a question, not everyone knows everything like you do lol


TBF after not understanding the workshop section I feel he earnt that title.
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PostPosted: 07:47 - 18 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

rotax81 wrote:
Jefr0-CBR6 wrote:
You sir are an idiot.

If your bike is standard then it is set up correctly. If you upjet it then you will be running it rich. Only when you add parts too it, like a sports exhaust then you should upjet etc etc. But I bet it has gone in one ear and out the other and you'll ask again you numpty


ffs!!!

he only asked a question, not everyone knows everything like you do lol


Looking back it seems a bit harsh but I just didn't think he was listening to people and he couldn't find the workshop Neutral
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 18 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

perhaps he is deaf AND blind Laughing
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