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PostPosted: 00:59 - 01 Sep 2008    Post subject: 89' DT125R supermoto project.. Reply with quote

EDIT.. Plans changed.. original plan was to buy another DT to use offroad and supermoto my DTRE but use the offroad DTR while I do the DTRE > DTX conversion.. Now im keeping the DTRE as a run-a-bout and supermoto the DTR since its quicker and imo more fun to ride especially with the power delivery of a pegged ypvs.


Old plan


Bought my 2004 re as a cat c writeoff in May 05 for £900 with just 4200 miles on it, by July it was back on the road after I spent about £300 getting it near to new (apart from the rear mudguard and tank which stil show its war wounds)..

Now Sep 08 its at 20k miles and has been ridden almost daily and the only thing on the engine Ive had to replace is the head gasket! and of course spark plugs.. Now its been off-road, jumped, binned on a roadabout, crashed into invisible moorland bumps and allsorts and to be honest. Its done me so well that im going to rebuild it but this time its going to be supermoto.. basically a DT125X..

so first off..

get alternative form of transport.... what better than one of these....




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12month tax and mot (daytime mot at that but getting lights on it is no problem).. £600!..result..

Now thats a full dep system sorted for my dt125re rebuild, got the original excel dt125x wheels with good pirelli sport tyres and discs (£125! result!), got a near mint original brembo dt125x front caliper, mint dt125x tank, mint rear shock and mint original forks (seems the newer forks have bad chroming on the stanchions and my peeled off completely by the fork clamps!)

Pretty much got everything I need apart from all new handlebars (renthal supermotos's), grips, swingarm linkage, seat or seat cover, body panels, custom front caliper mount (engineering mate sorting that from tool steel) or original dt125x forks which is the expensive but easier route, chain and sprockets and finally brake pads..

So as soon as Ive paid the £600 I borrowed to buy my other dt, which I just couldnt turn down, I will be stripping the dt125re down, powdercoating the frame, engine mount bracket, fork clamps, swingarm, footpegs and sidestand..

then... new topend and no doubt re-bore, possible new crank (6k miles of bumstart abuse after elec start died somewhere at 14k miles. Suspect bushes are worn in the starter motor.. yamaha and their infinate wisdom took away the kickstart in the new model!.. so while the bottom end is split, new main bearings, seals, new clutch and springs, fit a kickstart from a 2003 engine, new reeds
and air filter..

so after I get the powdercoated parts and engine rebuilt I can start putting it all together again and getting the last of the parts like handlebars, panels, chain and sprockets etc..

This is gonna be a long one but im aiming for summer 09..

how its gonna look

https://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008/06/29/bikepics-1337327-800.jpg

how it is now...

https://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008/08/28/bikepics-1399937-800.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 01 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool project but you've been on the road for 4 years with a 125? Get a real bike Razz
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 01 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fnatic wrote:
Cool project but you've been on the road for 4 years with a 125? Get a real bike Razz


He's got a real bike. Nothing wrong with 125s 2 strokes, I'm planning on getting 1 for a project over winter. I would love a DT125 but a bit too tall for me.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 25 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

just an update.. I had lost my garage about 4 months ago and accepted the fact id have to rebuild both DT's in the house in turn.. Well Ive just got the keys to another garage so things can start to move forward quicker than expected Very Happy

Just need to sort out my dtr and get that starting properly (bitch to start but starts fine once warm) the the dtre is coming off the road (good thing too since MOT in november!)

watch this space...


oo forgot to mention.. 89' dtr just got an led tail light (has daytime mot so no lights!) pics soon!
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 26 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
Fnatic wrote:
Cool project but you've been on the road for 4 years with a 125? Get a real bike Razz


Nothing wrong with 125s 2 strokes


When you get a proper ride on your 250, you won't be saying that anymore. Razz
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 26 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fahd wrote:
ms51ves3 wrote:
Nothing wrong with 125s 2 strokes


When you get a proper ride on your 250, you won't be saying that anymore. Razz


I've ridden my 100cc but still want an RS50 Razz
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 26 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fnatic wrote:
Cool project but you've been on the road for 4 years with a 125? Get a real bike Razz



Ive been riding for almost 5 years. Hell, I am currently building my 5th years NCB at the moment! Laughing

I've had 3 Honda 400s. And I am currently riding a 118cc Pit shit! Laughing Wink

The key word is "fun".
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 27 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

definately... ive ridden a wr250f (thats been tuned to almost a yz250) and a drz400e and yes they were animals but there nothing more fun that ragging the absolute crap out of a fairly quick 125.. the 07 ktm 125sx was for me, the most fun bike ive ridden! and at about 30bhp it can keep up with most 250 4t's!

im 24 and ive got 3 yam 125's and I would never part with them.. plus the fact that parts and consumables for my DT's are cheap as chips.. i mean... chain a sprox (jt and did) they are only £35, wheels are £30 a pop, tyres £35 each... the list goes on...
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 02 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey element, where you getting yer bits from. I am in need of tyres n chain n stuff.. Also iam in Saltash, so fairly local.
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 03 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

satelliteone wrote:
Hey element, where you getting yer bits from. I am in need of tyres n chain n stuff.. Also iam in Saltash, so fairly local.


for genuine parts - damerels mutley plain, plymouth (yam dealer)
MX stuff - JD racing, Saltash
pattern parts/oils/ebc brake pads/chain & sprox kits - CMS, Greenbank, Plymouth
Spares/Part worn tyres - Ebay/Plymouth bike breakers, cattedown

You can get cheap road legal knobblies (vee rubber) and they look just like proper mx tyres not the catspaw type for £35 or so from offroadonline.. they only do mail order but you can find them on ebay..

Get your chain and sprox for £35-40 from CMS in greenbank.. Genuine yam ones are around £80 for a kit but I think thats an o-ring chain so its more dureable..


do you ride a black dtre with bigone system? if so ive seen you riding around loads and i spoke to you ageees back..
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 03 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kualetie looking DT's mate, are the Vee rubber tyres any good my trail-wing's are dead and I need a new back tyre?

Keep us updated on your rebuild are you gonna keep the white DT for off-roading and street use?

Would a Vee 120/90-18" rear fit mae DT mate?
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 04 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not on the road yet element chap, its been 10 years or so since ive ridden a bike on the road. All i drive is PSV buses and old classic cars at the moment..lol..

except for a little spin on my m8`s YZ last week, and whizzing around on a DT too.

When i was little younger i was a local motox rider in st austell competion level with YZ`s, and even done a bit of speedway..

Im gona get my DT back on the road for early next year, so its spending some cash and having some late nights in the shed.

Cant wait to get out on the moors! gettitng a bit muddy...


I went over to the bike breakers today (cattdown)for an engine, the one i have is Knackered, All they got is stolen recoverd stuff and wont sell me a whole engine...bummer...lol.. but he might do the case halves. Got my eyes on fleabay tho..you never know!

thanks for the heads up on other locations tho..indeed will come in usefull.. as im a bit new to plymuff,
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 04 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300263256575&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020

will these fit>?
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 05 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

the vee rubber tyres are michelin copies.. something like the ac1o's.. All my mates rate them and they ride bigger bikes.. Also a 120/90 rear will fit no proplem. I got a massive tyre and it fits fine. Just beware if you have new chain and sprox because the tyre will then be closer to the rear shock so it rubs on the shock mud flap! Thats why you cant fit 120/110's etc



also the plan is to run the 89 dt offroad since there are way more parts for them on ebay and the dt125re is gonna be supermoto'd.. Since il have a caliper bracket made for the dt125re I'll be able to put the supermoto wheels on the 89' dt whenever Smile
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 05 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

double post Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 21 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

found myself a source of parts for the 89 dt.. soon I will getting a apparent dead 2002 engine (something about a bearing? im suspecting main bearings since the topend is apparently ok), dep tail pipe, seat, airbox, carb, wheels, mx tyres, triple clamps, master cylinders and hopefully another set of renthals.. gotta love mates Smile

gonna strip it and paint the frame again then rebuild with the parts from the 2002 dt.. The 02 engine I'll probably rebuild/tune later on I dunno.

once ive sorted the lil problems with the old dt i'll use that for work while I start supermoto my dtre Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 25 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

happy bunny today... £150 lighter and ive got a set of 2001 wheels and michelin mx tyres + new rear disc, throttle, cable, progrip grips, renthal bars + pad, front mastercylinder and complete airbox, battery holder, mudflap and new airfilter. I didnt get the engine as the guy wants to split it to get more money... I'll salvage the bottom end when he cant sell it (shagged main bearings) and then get the gear lever shaft and left sidecasing (metal... the older ones are plastic!)

anyway stripping the 89' dt125r then spray the frame/swingarm (going to be layering on the laquer!!) then rebuilding with the new parts I just got. I have spare forks from my dt125re since the fork seals are shagged on the original 89' forks and then its just a new set of chain and sprockets (hopefully 520 conversion Mr. Green ), new front and back brake levers, front brake hose and thats it...

Saw my mates dt125r that he is rebuilding converting to supermoto and it looks sweet. makes me want to supermoto my dt125r instead......

anyway pics very soon.. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 26 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

as promised i got a few pics...

anyway today I have...

*cleaned oil tank and rad/oil tank guards (after removing stripped bolts)
*stripped all the wiring loom off
*cleaned + repainted left side engine casing
*polished up right side engine casing
*removed rear mudguard (after fighting with more siezed/stripped bolts
*removed and polished dep tail pipe
*cleaned + repainted top fork clamp
*cleaned the new 2001 wheels
*removed chain
*attempted to get the back wheel off but after fighting with a siezed axle nut for an hour I find the whole axle is seized in! might have to cut it to get the back wheel off but the wheel is straight (a straight dt wheel is a good wheel!) so I really id like to get the bugger out.
*Cleaned new airbox/battery holder and removed the old one
*drained gearbox oil/coolant
*cleaned rectififer
*removed rev/clutch cable

not bad for 4 hours..

https://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008/10/26/bikepics-1462437-800.jpg

https://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008/10/26/bikepics-1462442-800.jpg

https://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008/10/26/bikepics-1462445-800.jpg

https://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008/10/26/bikepics-1462440-800.jpg

https://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008/10/26/bikepics-1462438-800.jpg

will take some pics of current progress.. the last 2 are from a few days back and ive done a fair bit since..

more soon!
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 26 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

looking great!.. not done much to my DTR, so you will have to make up the progress thread on yours..heheh.. Very Happy NO cash!.. just bought a bloody camper van and thats used up my spare cash for now. When i seel the GP100 on its spend spend spend!..
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 29 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

should be a great project, would love to do the same to my dt so im looking forward to reading how you get on.
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 30 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loving the white DT , keep us updated man Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 07:44 - 31 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

not been in the garage all week since ive changed shifts and I dont have any lights to work with (till I get my generator back of the old man) but hopefully I'l be spending a day on the weekend pulling more bits off.

If I still cant get the rear axle out then I'll be hacksawing it off, then i'll hopefully taking off the swingarm and respraying that.. The bottom fork clamp has 3 sheared bolts (previous person used crappy bolts to fit the front mudguard so thats going off to my mate to be drilled then re-tapped..Then off with the front pipe and engine and then the frame will be ready for respraying... I want to get it powdercoated but its a £100 job and I could use that money for other things i.e a top end rebuild on my dt125re so i'll just rattle can the frame til the next rebuild.. I get the feeling I might regret it but we will see... It might be alrite if I layer enough laquer on it...

watch this space Wink
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 17 Nov 2008    Post subject: bout the guy building the 2 dt's Reply with quote

i've got an '89 dt125 n i wanna supermoto it, have u got any tips bout what wheels will fit, or if supermoto wheels from an 06 dt125r would fit my bike?
good luck with ur projects btw, they look awsomes, specially the moto!! Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 02:07 - 25 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

im fitting dt125x wheels.. rear bolts right on (same hub) but the front I need to make up a caliper bracket since im using the standard forks with the dt125x caliper (brembo twinpot)..

anyway an update.. no pics since my w850i is crap at taking pics in the dark but anyways...


sidecasing, oil pump cover repainted (silver..awaiting laquer)..

Cleaned nearly the whole of the engine. no more oil and grime.. polished up the right sidecasing some more.. Replaced barrel/manifold nuts for zinc plated ones.. Oil pump needs a new pully (slighly damaged)..

Lower fork clamp had all 4 bolts drilled out then retapped and resprayed/laquered.

Top fork clamp has new bolts (allen head bolts from 2t sheet metal pressing tool)

Stripped frame completely. Started treating rust and prepped for primer

rear axle removed after I hacksawed it off. Axle was seized sold into caliper mount so I had to remove the disc (with bonus x2 rounded bolts that I hacksawed slots into and then attacked with impact driver)

footpegs. engine mounting plates. sidestand, swingarm linkages, engine mount bolts, front brake hose clamp and various other nuts and bolts waiting to be zinc coated Mr. Green


Only need a few small items now.. Petrol cap, front/break brake hose clamps/guide and front hose (would like a braided tho), rear chain adjusters, new chain and sprockets (520 conversion), chain rollers and maybe a new chain guide ..


progress is slow.. kids and women.. Thumbs Down

more soon and hopefully with pics!
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PostPosted: 07:26 - 25 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking forward to those pics man it sounds like you've done a bit of work so far Thumbs Up
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