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Mattastic
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 14 Apr 2004    Post subject: Legal standing of 'L' Plates Reply with quote

Basically my rear L plate has fallen off (must be the sheer power of my machine Wink ) but the one on the front is still in tact. I know that you have to display L plates when on a CBT but if I am caught riding with only one in place until I can be bothered to replace it what could I expect from our "friends" in blue?
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Sparks!
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 14 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think they take that quite seriously and I "think" you get 3 points or something Confused Not 100% sure but seem to remember 3 points from some where!
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Laura
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 14 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 points per L plate missing.
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 14 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got pulled with no back L-plate, I just blagged it that it had fallen off and my dad had just gone out to buy a new one. He said fit it quickly and ride safe. Incase you were wondering why he tugged me, it's because I look so small and young. Rolling Eyes I'll grow someday......
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Mattastic
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 14 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I better invest in a new one then! The only thing in my defence would be that you can see the remains or the rear L plate where I fastened it down.
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 14 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really all comes down to what kind of copper pulls you. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 14 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are only like £0.99 for fucks sake, just go buy one and stop moaning Razz
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Irdawood the 2nd
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 14 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes its 3 points for each plate, or you can get them paper sticky plates and keep them in your bag. When they stop you say they fell off and you picked them up and your just on your way to the bike shop.
I have been stopped twice and used this excuse both times and got away with it Smile .
But mind you it would be simpler to just have them on.
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 15 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on how reasonable you are when you get stopped and the story you give, many motorcycle bobbies will give you a warning, however, many will record it so that if they see you again it will result in a booking.

Penalty is 3 points and £60 for each L plate offence, if it goes to court up to £500 and 6 points.

L plates must be 7 inches square (the size when new) clearly visible to the front and rear of the vehicle.

If it is trimmed down to make it smaller, 3 points, if it cannot be seen although it is fitted, 3 points, if it is missing, 3 points, in short any transgression can result in 3 points and the £60 fine or the higher penalty if it goes to court.
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Mattastic
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 15 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got to work without any trouble today, I'll get some on my way home tonight, it's just a ball ache finding somewhere to chain the bike etc
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 15 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't want to display L plates... take your test!
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 15 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

T.C wrote:

If it is trimmed down to make it smaller, 3 points, if it cannot be seen although it is fitted, 3 points, if it is missing, 3 points, in short any transgression can result in 3 points and the £60 fine or the higher penalty if it goes to court.


ooh er' I've trimmed the front one down to the "L" size to fit on the mud guard, and the trimmed the back down "slightly" Confused
Any ho' test next week and then i can hopefully cut the little bugger's down to size a bit more Wink
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T.C
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 15 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

lilldic_mossy wrote:


ooh er' I've trimmed the front one down to the "L" size to fit on the mud guard, and the trimmed the back down "slightly" Confused
Any ho' test next week and then i can hopefully cut the little bugger's down to size a bit more Wink


If I may make a suggestion, apart from the fact that you are currently inviting £120 worth of fines and 6 points, if you have the cut down plates for your test the examiner may well terminate your test and you end up a further chunk of money out of pocket.

At my local test centre, the examiner will not test anyone who has anything less than a 100% L plate.

I am sure you intend to be 100% legal, but just in case.................
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Dez25
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 15 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would get it intact i got caught with no front L-Plate i instantly got 3 points and a £60!!!
My insurance quotes hav now rocketed through the roof its not worth not having one on!!
The police wouldnt even listen to any of my stories that it must off fell off they throught the book at me!! Twisted Evil
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jay12329
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 15 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why all the fuss about L-plates? If it falls off get a new one. They cost less than a quid. When I lost my back plate I got a new set when I got fuel. Put one on and put the other under my seat incase I lost another one.
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 15 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mate got 3 points and a fine for no L plates, but they let him off for the lack of MOT.

If you don't want them, leave them to fall off and if you get pulled say "sorry officer, they were there when i checked my bike at the start of the journey. Thank you for pointing that out, i'll fit some straight away"

They can't do you if you claim you checked your bike and they were there. Well, they prob could as the 'justice' system will do anything now...
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 15 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if you blatently lie to them what do you expect.
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 16 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got 3 points and 60 quid fine because I had only had a bit of my L plate left after some twat snapped it off when it was parked in town. Annoyingly I had my test booked for the following month. Grrr....

Cops are increasingly laying down the law when it comes to not having L plates. Either buy a new one or do your test as I doubt you will be lucky enough to blagg it.

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strac
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 17 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

keep a snapped Lplate in ure bag or under ure seat if you have the lil storage thing
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PostPosted: 01:46 - 18 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 points per L Plate and a £60.00 fine per plate.

What you should do is mount the L at the bottom of you plate but also run a V-Shaped thing metal banding to the bottom of the plate and bolt it on, may weight an extra 10g but saves the L-Plate.
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Mattastic
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 18 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig_ wrote:
3 points per L Plate and a £60.00 fine per plate.

What you should do is mount the L at the bottom of you plate but also run a V-Shaped thing metal banding to the bottom of the plate and bolt it on, may weight an extra 10g but saves the L-Plate.


Thanks, I'll try that. I've had two on the back so far and they've both come off. I know that they only cost a quid but it is a ball ache having to go buy them every five minutes!
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 18 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I had both plates on after CBT, but high speed wind snapped the front one, so I just removed it completely.

Only had the rear one for almost a year, until test 3 weeks ago.

I've been riding behind cops, in front of cops, riden past cops, stopped outside police station, not one even blinked at me Rolling Eyes

Just depends where you live I suppose. ATEOTD it's only a piece of plastic, it ain't gonna save your life!

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PostPosted: 17:28 - 18 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got pulled over for having one missing and they followed me to the garage to get a new one and they let me off. Otherwise it would have been a £30 fine.
Also when i got stopped for doing an amber light Rolling Eyes they commented that the bottom of my L plate was all curled up and it wasn't the legal size or something.
Depends what mood the ol' bill are in really. Usually a crap one but you get a few that let you off.
We got one officer asking us If our bikes were derestricted and we all said no rather innocently but then he started coming out with he had his derestricted when he was out age. Probably making us do it so we get caught but that would be hard to get found out unless you went past a police car doing somewhat more than 30mph (50's) or whatever the limit is on a 125.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 18 Apr 2004    Post subject: re Reply with quote

i no someone that got three points and a £60 pound fine for not having a rear l-plate, the cops round here are really strict with leaners,
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