Cornering advice please

[rhone81]

I did my first track day at the weekend and will be doing another one at Knockhill on the 25th. I wanted to ask for advice from some of the experienced track riders about my body position through corners. I seem to be able to lean the R6 far enough but feel very wooden when doing so and am not really leaning into the corners. I've attached some photos to give you an idea:

https://www.urbanracing.net/bike/knockhill3/DSC_3457.JPG
https://www.urbanracing.net/bike/knockhill3/DSC_3477.JPG
https://www.urbanracing.net/bike/knockhill3/DSC_2958.JPG

Cheers,

Graeme

[chris-red]

Keep an eye on your chicken strips I think it is good to see how much tire you have less plus the more you lean you can actually see them disappearing and it give a target.

As for body position move you head closer to your mirror and wiggle an arse cheek off the sofa.


TBH the way I leant to corner quicker to start with was becaue I flew into a few corners to fast for my comfort zone and realised realistically there was no drama the bike handled it fine.
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

2 words.

Hang off.
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[garth]

If your forearm isn't touching the top of the tank, you can still lean off further. Your head is heavy - get it on the inside of the bike and close to the ground to lower your COG.
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[jay12329]

Move your head and try and kiss your reflection in your mirror. That moves your head and shoulders down and out in the right sort of zone.
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[flossi46]

of course you wasn't trying luke! the person with the camera was just there by chance eh....... and greame, learn the corners 1st, then you can hang off more each time as you get confident, believe me its hillarious watching some of them hurl into the bend, hung off vale style, and then they realise it cant work.ooops!
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[Deano]

i would say foot postion and body position needs changing from those pictures.

when you at the apex and ready to turn in you wanna be finished with your braking etc and the only thing you wanna be concerned with is leaning over and then thinking about when your gonna be applying the power, which should be at or just after the mid-apex of the corner.

I would try putting your balm of you toes on the inside peg and on a tiptoe stance, aim your knee for the corner(apex), you dont need to hang off the bike like LUKE, shuffling your arse from left to right like that will cause the bike to unsettle and may cause your bike to wobble lots which wont help. the only time you need alot of hangin off is highspeed big lean corners to help keep the bike planted. slide your bum over a bit but sometimes your bum wont want to move due to the leather sticking to the seat so dont focus too much about this if it happens it not mega crucial.

If you find you lean over and the pegs start to scrape the floor which does happen easily enough on standard pegs then starting putting the balm of your foot on the heel plate of the rearset.

your body position is key like others are stating move your head and shoulders towards the mirrors but you dont want any pressure on the handlebars as this will make the bike turn which you dont want to happen. could cause the front end too tuck.

good luck..

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[MaybeGuy]

get your arse crack on the edge of the seat, stick knee out, lean until it touches tarmac.
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[Whosthedaddy]

The thing that I need to work on is the head and shoulder position.

I tend to stay upright (for a better word) and just seem to push the bike with my arms and legs from side to side just as someone on a bmx or mountain bike may do when turning a corner.

The analogy of a heavy head is a good one as the MCN 'How to KD' uses this principle, I have yet to master it though as it seems to unsettle my position and ultimately my confidence as it feels very front heavy with extra weight being placed on the bars.

Not a big fan of hanging off, seems too much to do in a short period of time especially when you see the corner approaching rapidly.

Any ideas, not the best time of year to try and perfect it I know and I can't wait to see my track day pics come November, the shame of it all I can sense it now!

The rear brake entering a corner is something that was commented on by the Bikesafe course I believe and one that does come in handy on the road not just the track.

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[Whosthedaddy]

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Edited for clarification; meant use the front so the rear is just about to lift.
One place that the rear can be used, though I haven't found it made much difference, is to use it just before the front to drop the rear down a bit; this should mean you can brake a little harder before the back comes off the tarmac.
Wouldn't worry about it too much at the mo - when you're braking with the rear just about to hover right to the apex, then tipping in and keeping brakes deep into the corner, maybe it's worth considering stuff like that to push it a little more ... though even when I've been fairly happy with my riding, I've found it's one more thing I don't have time to think about.