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PostPosted: 14:00 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: How to park a CG in a Vauxhall Astra. Reply with quote

Monday morning (13th of October - typical eh?) about 8.00 I decided to treat the No2 son to a ride to school on the back of the CG. (OK, so it wasn't a decision as such, he'd just missed his bus/train so I felt obliged to get him there for half past eight.)

After getting kitted up he stands in the kitchen and utters the immortal line,
"I've never been nor do I ever want to be in a motorbike accident"

Famous last words eh?
I tell him to shut up and stop tempting fate, and we're laughing as we get on the back of Penelope for the 10 minute ride to school.
This is the first time I'd taken Squirt on the back, so I was a little more nervous than normal, and was extra-careful about being smooth.

We manage to get 2/3rds of the way there with no head-butting, no wobbling, anything. So I'm starting to relax a little by this point and when we come to a long straight in a 40mph zone I feel confident in myself enough to filter past a line of stationary traffic.

School runs, They're bad for your health I can tell you.

There's no oncoming traffic and I can see right down to the traffic lights and 30MPH zone at the bottom of the road. Safe enough you may think (at least I did,) so I pootled past the cars in 2nd gear at around 20mph....

As I'm just passed about half of the queue, I see a car pulling it's front end out, I slam on the brakes and horn simultaneously but only having a car and a half's distance to stop, I see the car coming closer and closer, there was honestly nothing more I could do.
Everything seemed to be in slow motion, as we made impact with the drivers side door. By this point I had locked up the rear wheel and the CG had gone side-on into the Astra. my shoulder slammed against the door frame and my arm went through the driver's side window.
I scrambled out of the broken glass to check on Squirt who, interestingly enough was already off the bike. He thought that he had reverse-leap-frogged off just before impact, and as much as I doubted this could have happened I tried to believe it as he was shaken up enough.

After checking Squirt over and making sure he was OK, I tried to speak to the driver who was still sitting there (possibly in shock) covered in glass, but can't recall him answering. I noticed a young girl in the back of the car, who was no older than 14 and she looked scared to death, tears rolling down her cheeks. So I tried to snap the driver out of it by telling him that she was in a state in the back, all he said to her was 'are you OK'.

In the meantime, I had left the CG up against the side of his car, two people from the queue behind had run over to try to help, phoned the police and were just generally making sure everyone was alright.
The one witness (named Gary) moved the CG onto the pavement and put it on the centre-stand, I don't really remember a lot of what was happening at this point I was more concerned with hugging No2 son and reassuring him that I was fine. I called Sickpup just to hear his voice and be reassured myself.

The police attended and took statements from the driver, myself and both witnesses. The witness statements (from what I heard) backed me up 100% which made me feel a little better about it, they agreed that neither of them saw an indicator.
The driver kept his distance by staying a little further down the road from where I was, I don't remember him even asking if we were alright, but on the same token, I don't recall even speaking to him once the witnesses moved the car & bike to the side of the road. I just remember him being on the phone for the majority of the time.

After the breathalyser was done and dusted, I was handed a piece of paper by one of the officers with the Astra drivers details on. (Name and address only, no registration number, no contact number.) And told they would be sorting out the broken glass etc.

The witnesses were amazing, the lovely chaps bundled the CG into the Van and myself and Squirt into the car and took us home. Detouring on the way for me to pick up cigarettes.

After a trip to the A&E (after much nagging from a friend) I can report that I am battered, bruised, and have possible fractures in my left hand - I have to go back down for more X-Rays in 10 days time. No2 son is bruised and sore.

Obligatory paint diagram:
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I know it's crap, but I wanted to show that the road was practically straight and visibility was good.

The CG is looking a bit sick to be honest - Although I may be too emotionally attached to see what is up with it, I'll wait for Sickpup to give it the once over on the weekend before posting.

I have been told that a CG cannot die until someone drives a stake through it's Honda-Lump-heart Laughing

We shall see.
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad your ok! bloody cagers...
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you and yours are ok.
In this case going sideways probably saved damage to yourself and the bike.

I know when my ids are pillion it's the most precious cargo I'll every carry. Mind you I do do it on something a bit bigger than a CG Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you and squirt are OK, fingers crossed for the CG.
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I have been told that a CG cannot die until someone drives a stake through it's Honda-Lump-heart

It'll still try to get you home anyway Smile
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bollocks. Crying or Very sad

Glad you're OK Loz, shame about Squirt's first ride on a bike as well, he seemed a lovely little boy when i heard you telling him off one time Razz
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: How to park a CG in a Vauxhall Astra. Reply with quote

lozzypop1 wrote:
I have been told that a CG cannot die until someone drives a stake through it's Honda-Lump-heart Laughing


Don't worry about your CeeGee a knock like that may scar it, but wont harm it.

Glad you and squirt are both okay.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn Shocked Hope it all turns out ok for you.
Always good to have the witnesses on your side, always makes the nasty process that bit better.
The Cg will probably only need a quick tinker to be sorted, CG's never die, they just get slightly less reliable Wink
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from the bent forks etc.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

flip wrote:
Apart from the bent forks etc.


well that may be a problem, only if you don't have a big enough hammer Wink
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just goes to show how one idiot pulling out slightly can cause all that.
I hope everybody who witnesses that learns to respect bikers abit more as well, by the sounds of it that astra may have pulled out slightly on purpose? I mean why the hell else would he have decided he needed to move.

Hmm. Glad your alright. Sons probably never going to want to ride your bike again though Wink
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn what a time to have a cager pull out on you. Some people can't be helped unfortunately, they just think that side mirrors are for show. I hope you and the little'un are OK and the diver might think about checking his mirrors next time he makes a silly manoeuvre like that one.
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

gws, hope it's not put squirt off biking... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good effort lozzzzzzzzzypop
was expecting a i broke the blokes nose after i put my hand through his window, oh well Laughing
Hope the insurance goes ok and you and the lil chap are all good.
Btw is sickpup just a mate or related or something? Razz
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiya Lozzy.
Glad you are both alright.Good thing you got on the brakes before impact.
It sounds like the young lad abandoned the sinking ship(well boat) and let the captain go down with it. Smile
Give him the back of your hand.

Take care.

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PostPosted: 17:51 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch, babes! Hope the hand isn't broken and everything else heals quickly.

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PostPosted: 17:57 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no! Sad

GWS, and a hug for the Squirt.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you are both ok. I feel sorry for the little girl in the back....
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Ouch. Get well soon.

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PostPosted: 19:29 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get well soon Loz. Karma

Good drills from Squirt, plus he kept his pledge, as he wasn't technically in the accident Wink

I too am disappointed your arm didn't connect with the 'drivers' face... Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aww shucks thanks all.

It wasn't Squirt's first time on a bike, but it WAS the first time on the back of me. Bless him, as we got home he told me that he had been a little nervous about getting on, but I'm a really good rider. Confused
He also said today he's got no worries about getting back on.

Blindside, It was definitely done on purpose.. He was fed up with waiting in the queue of traffic and tried to turn around Laughing
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As i suspected Razz
Just checking haha. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

0h n0z!!!!

Hope you both GWS quickly!

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PostPosted: 21:06 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tutton wrote:
Btw is sickpup just a mate or related or something? Razz

lozzypop1 wrote:

Tutton He's my boyyyyfriend Embarassed


Timmeh wrote:
0h n0z!!!!

Hope you both GWS quickly!


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PostPosted: 21:09 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: How to park a CG in a Vauxhall Astra. Reply with quote

lozzypop1 wrote:
Monday morning (13th of October - typical eh?) about 8.00 I decided to treat the No2 son to a ride to school on the back of the CG. (OK, so it wasn't a decision as such, he'd just missed his bus/train so I felt obliged to get him there for half past eight.)

After getting kitted up he stands in the kitchen and utters the immortal line,
"I've never been nor do I ever want to be in a motorbike accident"

Famous last words eh?
I tell him to shut up and stop tempting fate, and we're laughing as we get on the back of Penelope for the 10 minute ride to school.
This is the first time I'd taken Squirt on the back, so I was a little more nervous than normal, and was extra-careful about being smooth.

We manage to get 2/3rds of the way there with no head-butting, no wobbling, anything. So I'm starting to relax a little by this point and when we come to a long straight in a 40mph zone I feel confident in myself enough to filter past a line of stationary traffic.

School runs, They're bad for your health I can tell you.

There's no oncoming traffic and I can see right down to the traffic lights and 30MPH zone at the bottom of the road. Safe enough you may think (at least I did,) so I pootled past the cars in 2nd gear at around 20mph....

As I'm just passed about half of the queue, I see a car pulling it's front end out, I slam on the brakes and horn simultaneously but only having a car and a half's distance to stop, I see the car coming closer and closer, there was honestly nothing more I could do.
Everything seemed to be in slow motion, as we made impact with the drivers side door. By this point I had locked up the rear wheel and the CG had gone side-on into the Astra. my shoulder slammed against the door frame and my arm went through the driver's side window.
I scrambled out of the broken glass to check on Squirt who, interestingly enough was already off the bike. He thought that he had reverse-leap-frogged off just before impact, and as much as I doubted this could have happened I tried to believe it as he was shaken up enough.

After checking Squirt over and making sure he was OK, I tried to speak to the driver who was still sitting there (possibly in shock) covered in glass, but can't recall him answering. I noticed a young girl in the back of the car, who was no older than 14 and she looked scared to death, tears rolling down her cheeks. So I tried to snap the driver out of it by telling him that she was in a state in the back, all he said to her was 'are you OK'.

In the meantime, I had left the CG up against the side of his car, two people from the queue behind had run over to try to help, phoned the police and were just generally making sure everyone was alright.
The one witness (named Gary) moved the CG onto the pavement and put it on the centre-stand, I don't really remember a lot of what was happening at this point I was more concerned with hugging No2 son and reassuring him that I was fine. I called Sickpup just to hear his voice and be reassured myself.

The police attended and took statements from the driver, myself and both witnesses. The witness statements (from what I heard) backed me up 100% which made me feel a little better about it, they agreed that neither of them saw an indicator.
The driver kept his distance by staying a little further down the road from where I was, I don't remember him even asking if we were alright, but on the same token, I don't recall even speaking to him once the witnesses moved the car & bike to the side of the road. I just remember him being on the phone for the majority of the time.

After the breathalyser was done and dusted, I was handed a piece of paper by one of the officers with the Astra drivers details on. (Name and address only, no registration number, no contact number.) And told they would be sorting out the broken glass etc.

The witnesses were amazing, the lovely chaps bundled the CG into the Van and myself and Squirt into the car and took us home. Detouring on the way for me to pick up cigarettes.

After a trip to the A&E (after much nagging from a friend) I can report that I am battered, bruised, and have possible fractures in my left hand - I have to go back down for more X-Rays in 10 days time. No2 son is bruised and sore.

Obligatory paint diagram:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/uturn2.jpg

I know it's crap, but I wanted to show that the road was practically straight and visibility was good.

The CG is looking a bit sick to be honest - Although I may be too emotionally attached to see what is up with it, I'll wait for Sickpup to give it the once over on the weekend before posting.

I have been told that a CG cannot die until someone drives a stake through it's Honda-Lump-heart Laughing

We shall see.


this sounds very similar to what happened to me a little while back!

both police and insurance companies found that the other driver was 100% at fault, but still had to take a month off work and the bike was a write off which was a bit of a pain in the ass tbh!

glad to hear your both ok Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 03:12 - 16 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: How to park a CG in a Vauxhall Astra. Reply with quote

lozzypop1 wrote:
my shoulder slammed against the door frame and my arm went through the driver's side window.


Haha, I hope it scared the shit clean out of him. Thumbs Up

Get well soon.
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