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Bike_craze1
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Acceleration tips.. Reply with quote

So yeah I'm not very good at pulling away, I normally pull away like a snail, any tips?
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Open the throttle more is the easiest way to go faster. Wink
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my ped, I can leave most traffic standing. It's very fast at being very slow though: the traffic often overtakes me before the end of the road is erached!

On my ybr125, I'm usually just poking ahead of other trafffic - but it's not a very powerful bike.

On smaller bikes, it's not just about opening the throttle further. As with all other aspects, you actually need some skill with a lighth bike (any idiot can ride a litre sports bike, and many do) Getting away from traffic if you're on a bike that does 50 in 1st is obviously easy. But on a 125, you need to combine quick shifting with swift throttle action.

On my ybr, opening the throttle tto get away would just mean I'm redlining. 1st is only good for 5-10mph, after all.

The secret is rapid gear shifting, practise that.
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

with my cbr125 i tend to find releasing the clutch carefully helps and not going nuts with the throttle. i dont the bike will ever get a really fast start but its smooth at least Smile
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: Acceleration tips.. Reply with quote

Bike_craze1 wrote:
So yeah I'm not very good at pulling away, I normally pull away like a snail, any tips?


More revs, dump the clutch a little quicker, what's the worst that can happen?
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a small capacity bike you need to use lots of revs and feather the clutch. If you let the clutch out too fast it will bog down, if you dump it you might lift the front end. Let it out too slowly will see you sat there revving lots not going very fast!

Just a bit of practice until you can find the point where you are releasing the most amount of power with the clutch without upsetting the bike.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: Acceleration tips.. Reply with quote

Bike_craze1 wrote:
So yeah I'm not very good at pulling away, I normally pull away like a snail, any tips?


Somebodys bound to say it anyway,get a faster bike Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you nervous of the bike?

Like most things dont push it a crowded road, find a quiet spot, and simply practice getting off that bit quicker than before.

Use higher revs whilst slipping the clutch a bit to get you away then all the way out.

May be a stupid question but it happens - are you sure your in 1st when you pull away?
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of revs slip the clutch lean forward job done.
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Lots of revs slip the clutch lean forward job done.


hmm....depends on experience, thats quite an agressive position from lights that will antognise some cages into a counter move. Perhaps not right for this person.
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PostPosted: 09:17 - 19 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let the gears do the work. Not need to wring the neck of the engine all the time.
No idea what your red line is, but there should be no need even on a 125 to hit it in every gear away from the lights.

As someone else said find a quiet piece of road and practise a few starts, you will soon find whats best for you.

Remember that every set of lights is not the start of a MotoGp. Reving your bike before setting off is a sure fire way to upset someone in a car enough for them to attempt to race you away from the lights.
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 19 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I am in 1st haha, and I just don't wanna let the clutch out to fast so the bike turns off. Very Happy
Sorry if this is a stupid question but what does dumping the clutch mean?
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 19 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you simply let go of the lever.

Its going to go one of 2 ways....
Either it stops the engine or a back flip Sick
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 19 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just hold steady revs, and dont be scared to whip the clutch out.
Unless your dumping it completely your very unlikely to be lifting the front up..
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 19 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Careful clutch control is not required IMO on a 125cc 4 stroke bike. Just let it out quickly at about 1/2 the rev range, and then pin it to the stop in every gear. Don't waste too much time with:
a) Hitting the red line and or rev limiter,
b) slow gear changes,

If the engine makes peak power at say 9000rpm, then you don't want to be revving it much past this point before quickly snicking into the next gear and so on.

If you were trying to accelerate as fast as possible away from a start on a bike with 150bhp, then clutch control is a whole different issue indeed!
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 19 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Careful clutch control is not required IMO on a 125cc 4 stroke bike. Just let it out quickly at about 1/2 the rev range, and then pin it to the stop in every gear. Don't waste too much time with:
a) Hitting the red line and or rev limiter,
b) slow gear changes,

If the engine makes peak power at say 9000rpm, then you don't want to be revving it much past this point before quickly snicking into the next gear and so on.

If you were trying to accelerate as fast as possible away from a start on a bike with 150bhp, then clutch control is a whole different issue indeed!
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 19 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bike_craze1 wrote:
Yeah I am in 1st haha, and I just don't wanna let the clutch out to fast so the bike turns off. Very Happy
Sorry if this is a stupid question but what does dumping the clutch mean?


Have you adjusted the clutch lever slack to suit your hands?
Some clutch levers also have another adjustment for your hands.

The other idea is you simply need to learn to use the clutch and throttle.

Have a look at the owners manual about the clutch lever slack.

For instants on one make of bike the owners manual says set the clutch lever slack between 10 and 20mm.
Because the bike was new the shop set it to 10 mm because they know a new clutch cable will stretch more than a used one.
Sounds good until I found it was very hard to control the clutch since the bitting point was to soon (my fingers were not sensitive enough at that point).
I thought it was just me until 3 other people tried the bike and said the same thing. So I adjusted it to 20mm and then it was perfect for everyone including me.
I later found loads of other people had the same experience (not good if your a learner and do not know better).

Do not use the figures above since your clutch slack could well be different for your bike, look in the owners manual.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 19 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you adjust it?
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PostPosted: 03:44 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

LukeVFR wrote:
On a 125 you can literally bounce off the limiter and then just slip the clutch... Practise this at low RPM and work your way up until you're pinging off the limiter. Only attempt it with warm tyres on a dry day, as even a 4T 125 will catch you out. And yes, it's possible for the front wheel to come up if you're too violent with the clutch, so make sure you slip it until you find the perfect combination -- it's easy after a few goes. Wink


I nearly flipped my RXS100, Gave it 8k revs and burried the clutch I was running along behinded the bike with the L plate scraping the ground
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bike_craze1 wrote:
How do you adjust it?


The owners manual should tell you.
If not with most bike yo pull the large rubber cover off the clutch lever, slacken off the nut and turn the adjuster.
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