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kev
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 19 Apr 2004    Post subject: Oval pistons Reply with quote

Was the NR750 the only bike with oval pistons?
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 19 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember reading somewhere Honda used them in a 4-stroke GP bike years ago in an attempt to beat the 2-strokes.
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 19 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only roadbike Kev!
I believe there was a monocoque framed oval piston 500cc 4 stroke GP bike that honda fiddled with that was oval pistoned. I believe it was a triple. I have a feeling it was an NR500 or something...

/me awaits correction from the more mature members of the forum...

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PostPosted: 20:50 - 19 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually mean on a road bike.
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 19 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, then yes. Smile
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kev
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 19 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that case when I was about 14 a friend of mine had one, cant really remember the bike but I do remember it had oval pistons.
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 19 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Apparently Triumph played with oval pistons in the 1920's. Honda played with them for years trying to make a 4 stroke that could compete against 2 strokes, then gave up and built the NSR 2 stroke race bikes. The NR500 was a race bike and never sold to the public. NR allegedly stood for Never Ready. Honda finally built the NR750 to make use of the technology.

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PostPosted: 23:10 - 20 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

What advantages do oval pistons have?
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 20 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

They look nice Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 20 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

loply wrote:
What advantages do oval pistons have?


None at all really.

What they do mean is that you can have a 4 cylinder engine which (with 2 plugs per cylinder) is effectively an 8 as far as bore and stroke go. Thus you land up with a short stroke engine without having a stupid bore size.

Basically it works because Honda needed a way to come out with a short stroke engine so they could rev the nuts off it and stand some small theoretical hope of making a 4 stroke keep up with a 2 stroke. Eventually they decided it was cheaper to build a 2 stroke and then get the rules changed to give 4 stroke a massive capacity advantage.

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