helping a nervous dog?

[Dragonfly]

Right I need help with one of my dogs who is for want of a better word a whimp.

He is a fully grown male german shepherd and cant do a thing right. he gets up to stuff he should not, he kows better and is well house trained. Eating cat pooh was one and he done that more than once and knew soon as we caught he did wrong as he peed everywhere and cried.

Only now this past while this pissing thing is getting out of hand. Its not that he doesnt know where to pee when ever anyone goes near him he pisses! he was scolded last night for wreaking my conservatory plants and demolishing the sofa in there and from then on he will be hopping around jumping at everything. I didnt even actually shout at him as I wasnt in the greatest of form just walked away. Hadnt the energy.

So I went into kitchen to grab a chair as i was about to put up a lampshade and he was in cornor, soon as I walk in he is flooding the ground in piss!
happens with other poeple normally men that he dosnt know come in like OH mates and took him a long time to get used to my dad coming in. He never used to do it around me but does now.

My mop cant take it anymore I cant take cleaning up the pee and things he eats like cat pooh and wires off things like hoovers and heaters. He gets loads of love and attention here but the min you take your eye off him he is at something bad and pees before you even have time to aknowlegde what he has done. So it dosnt seem to be an attention thing or is it?

My other dog isnt at all like this. I dont know what to do with him as I have a baby on the way and he will get less attention then and he gets loads now and still does weird things. He would be ok if i wasnt running around cleaning his pee up in house as its not hygenic I think he was abused before i got him as he came from a resuce centre.

He isnt settled here at all and has been here since Jan, is there anying I can get for him that works? I googled things there as my mate said there is tabs you can get to calm but are they safe or will he turn into a druggie?

I found a defuser thing also that cotained phermones? got any exsperiances with them?

he isnt being picked on by other dog either, other dog is perfect pet that I trust. And the cats get on with him.

He has abandonment issues as when i get up he bolts after me with the ears down, i think he thinks we are going to leave him there and never come back. I put my lap top down on table and he is out of the chair waiting to come after me and I havnt got up even. Will not sit for longer that 5 mins, and you can time it with a watch.

he isnt neutered yet but I plan to. Do you think that will settle him also? I plan on that when i get paid next.

[stinkwheel]

How old is this dog? Can be a problem that younger dogs grow out of.

German Shepherds are a total nightmare at the best of times, I can't understand why anyone would want to keep one as a pet.
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[stinkwheel]

Sounds like symptoms of seperation anxiety to a certain extent.

If it is destroying your house, it might be worth getting in a dog behaviourist. They are expensive but a consultation with one is less than a new carpet!

Vets aren't given all that extensive a training in animal behavioural problems. I have a very good woman near me who comes over to your house for a consultation, give some training tips then keeps in touch by phone. Might be worthwhile asking your vets if they can recommend someone.

It's a young dog, German Shepherds are very needy dogs and need firm but correct training. Now is the time to get it sorted out properly.

It will be hard work!
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[Icey]

Sounds like a Submissive 'peeing' problem. Does he do it when he gets excited too?

https://www.ddfl.org/behavior/submissive-uri.pdf
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Got it sorted with the other one thats how she is so good. I used a german shepherd dog training book to help with her and she is a star. Just this one is proving to be more difficult. He is really a dumb dog though

I dont think there are any in my area but will ask the vet for a number. Thank god I put wooden floors down! but seem to be a hazzard with them legs of his as he dislocated his hip and it cant be fixed as we thought he just fell again and just hurt it. Swear he thinks he is a gray hound in the back ard runing about.

Missy when you look at her you can tell what she is thinking and she is smart, bruce on the other hand is like a blank canvas.

Missy is currantly sitting very proudly in a chair with her paws cross watcing tv while the other is hiding behind a sofa and I dare go near him for he will piss again.

As a last resort though he would have to go when baby comes. Its just to much now.

what about neutering? or will that definatly be the end of his nerves?

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[Tonka]

I've never owned a GSD but several friends have. They need an extraordinary amount of exercise and attention and I think that it's fairly clear why they tend to be better as working dogs. At least two good long walks a day with lots of off lead running - averaging 4+ miles per day minimum. One friend uses a big strong rubber ball on rope to throw to get theirs running lots (tennis balls just get destroyed). They have all found that training classes helped lots as you are away from home territory and the social side can develop the dog's confidence.

As far as the separation anxiety is concerned I have had that with my Rottie. I've had him from 8 weeks (he's now 19 months old) and he's getting better - it's a difficult one as it seems to be a personality trait in some dogs. I started with making him stop still when I get up to leave the room and literally walking a couple of steps then back until he stayed put - loads of praise and treats!

Whichever way you look at it it will require a lot of time and patience - both of which will be in short supply with the baby coming along! I find I have to check my temper more often than I'd like with my Rottie, as he drives me nuts (yeah, even nuttier) especially when I'm tired. Really hope you can sort it out
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Dogs. Way too much of a pain in the ass.

Get a cat, all you have to do is feed them, occasional combing and flea treatment, and ususal booster injections and nothing more.

Plus they don't stink.

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I have 2 cats and they are so much better than dogs. I still say cats rule!
Bruce is ducking and diving arounnd the house like he is in some action movie about to be shot maybe I should play him the mission impossible theme. He is an absolute nightmare when let out! he goes for evey dog he sees and actually when I walked him he made my hands bleed he tugged that much on the lead, Needless to say I aint allowed to walk him anymore the OH does to the fields every day across the road.

he is clumsy to has dislocated his hip a few weeks ago and its now permanant as we thought he just pulled a muscle running about as he does throw himself arond like a rag doll.

He is getting his balls cut off soon, pains me to do that to an animal but it may calm him down a bit. Honstly if he cant buck up and I have this baby and he causes more stress I have said to OH I will get rid of him, baby first.

[Icey]

Whilst having a search around I found this;

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he isnt a mad horny dog though which is surprising, odd time he tried to skull f*ck Missy but notihng else. But rest of my pets changed when nuetred for the better. I dont think that will completly cure him, he probably would get worse with the pain after it Will see there.

Thanks for doing that research though. I have tried again most them things as I was looking up rescue dogs before and how to help them as he was found on the streets. I have no idea what he was doing for 4 months as I got him when he was that age but he was ok then, a bit scared but came out of his shell and slowly went back into it again. One moment you will think he is ok and coming alone and the next he is totally back down hill again. I swear he has flash backs or thinks of doing something bad and thinks maybe we can read his mind for the faces he pulls sometimes. he is very strange.

will see how it goes and hopefully fingers crosssed.

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