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Marcg868
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 10 Nov 2008    Post subject: Bulb help Reply with quote

Basically im after a new dipped beam bulb for my Hyosung GT125, its
12V 55W H1 fitment at the moment. Now basically im after something a hell of alot brighter, as ive got brighter clipper lighters than the one in at the moment.

Any suggestions at to what i can get from either Halford or Hein Gericke etc?

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PostPosted: 20:21 - 10 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried a number of those so called super bright filament ones and they were still dim as $h1t. Fitted a H1 H.I.D. kit. Got so much light in front I hardly use main beam. Flew through mot with it fitted as well.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 10 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends entirely on your budget, if you want very bright:

*Scroll down and check out the 12,000k*

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Xenon-HID-conversion-Kit-H1-H3-H4-H7-UK-SELLER_W0QQitemZ140274996211QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item140274996211&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1345|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308

If you have a more limited budget:

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Xenon-HID-bulbs-SUZUKI-Bandit-1200-S-01-04-HB3-HB4-501_W0QQitemZ160296889461QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160296889461&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1345|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

Be aware the second option will be brighter than the original bulb but no where near as bright as a proper H.I.D kit. The 12,000 k H.I.D does take the piss a bit though as it can dazzle other road users.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 10 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The kelvin ratings have an inversely proportional relationship to luminosity mind. 4000K-12000K is just a band of the visible light spectrum with 3000K being representative of a yellow tinge and 12000K being purple. 12000K takes the piss by being too blue, it won't dazzle road users because the luminosity output is probably far less than standard bulbs. Try it, use a lux meter in the dark and compare the luminosity of the 4000K against the 12000K... Too many ebay ads try to mislead people. If you want cheap HID's, look on ebay for a seller called Diane Shop - just input HID Bike or HID BiXenon and it'll be a chinese seller, reasonable kits for 30 quid so if you want to give it a go, by all means, i was happy with the results. With HID's you need to adjust your beam aim so as not to dazzle other road users and technically they aren't road legal - but any bulb with a poorly adjusted beam or beam pattern is looking to get pulled. I've never had any problems with mine.

So, if you want luminosity, go for as close to 4000K as possible - 6000K is reckoned to be in the same spectrum as daylight, hence you will get a significant amount of light being projected.

The second link misleads you into being a HID kit. No WAY is a HID kit THAT cheap! Firstly, you need a ballast and a bulb kit which you need to retrofit onto your existing circuit. Please refer to the workshop section where i've help people point out the pros and con's of HID's, namely that they're illegal - but they're necessary if you do a lot of night rides/commutes through country roads.

If you want good quality bulbs, i'll give you some recommendations if you don't want the HID route

Arrow Philips Xtreme Vision
Arrow Osram Nightbreakers

Those are really bright and have the benfit of being road legal, pricy mind at 20-30 quid a pair.

Arrow Osram Silverstars
Arrow Philips Vision Plus

These don't output as much light as the previous range of bulbs but are still considerably good... i've had both vision plus, Xtreme visions and HID 6000K kits on my bike and for practicality, i'd go for the Xtreme visions as it's better than stock, but far less hassle than HID installations.

https://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v191/10/100/500990711/n500990711_606530_450.jpg

HID's

https://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C11%5C07%5Cbikepics-1080699-full.jpg

Philips Xtreme visions

HTH

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PostPosted: 00:24 - 11 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably go with the Phillips regular bulbs as its less hassle than fitting a HID kit in all honesty Smile, where will i pick the Phillips bulbs up?
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 11 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm not going to say don't be changing lighting systems but...

i've ridden around on all ages and sizes of bikes from 1950s with six volt dynamo systems to reasonably modern twelve volt systems with twin headlights (some with extra lighting)...

mostly i think that the problem with lighting is the way the pattern is thrown on the road, quite a few lighting systems appear to have a vague pattern nowadays....

the other thing i believe, is folks are regularly trying to ride/drive faster (further) than they can see to stop in ...

we now have pretty good street lighting in most areas which almost eliminates the need for lights on our bikes until you get close to the countryside, where if you don't know the road you should adjust your speed to accomodate the conditions/lighting...

not knocking your desire to improve your lighting, but just making a comment
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PostPosted: 01:25 - 11 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do need to improve my lighting tho as the road i use on a regular basis during the early hours ( i start at 0630) is a 50 mph country road with no lighting. The A666 between Bromely Cross and Darwen. The dipped beam does not light the road up enough and the full beam is marginally better but not much.

My mates sidelights are better than my dipped beam.
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PostPosted: 07:48 - 11 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fitted HID's to my Integra - they're fantastic!

I got 8k but i'd go for 6k if i were to do it again. Anything over that does tend to look a bit chavvy.

The kelvin rating is just the colour of the light.Hhaving a higher number does not mean the light will be brighter or go further. Just look a different colour.
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