NASA climate change data fudged

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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/19/nasa_giss_cockup_catalog/

precis NASA's climate change figures are fudged, ie we can mess them up but as long as it shows the planet is warming up our mistakes are ok....

NASA's original plot said 0.2C hotter , but when checked revealed it to actually be 0.25C colder.....
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Hi

Few more details here:-

Telegraph Article

Bit more damning about the figures, which are the main ones used to support the IPCC.

So here we have a massively expensive report, being used to support hideously expensive industrial changes, and they cannot even be bothered employing someone to check the basic figures.

All the best

Keith
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So how long until what was formerly Global Warming and is now Climate Change becomes Global Cooling?

Well, they need some sort of snazzy name to impose a carbon tax on us, don't they? Never mind the billions upon billions involved in oil and dirty industry people - the way to 'save the planet' is to allow your government to tax you every time you exhale.
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Hmmmm,
The phrase "lies, damn lies and statistics" springs to mind.
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https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5949034802461518010&hl=en

cool video about global warming,america may face some economic harm with obamas plans to reduce c02 by 80% in the coming years starting to do so by using heavy taxation on all industry and personal activity's involving the poison gas.

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[igiyf]

the taxes are going to be big on all industry's and activity's..america will led the way and i suppose the EU will follow.agriculture will be hit hard if the proposals of $175 carbon tax per dairy cow, $87.50 per head for beef cattle and a little more than $20 per pig are bought in,as for road users pay as you drive will be in by then clocking up the miles,carbon credit cards for those using public transport and all carbon taxes added on top of the tax already placed on products..worked out by there carbon foot print..there will be no replacing of taxes..just a case of adding them to the current price of everything.

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init Keith no reason what so ever why those bastards should get away with it!

https://www.carbonrationing.org.uk/fora/links/petition-to-government-to-introduce-carbon-tax

petition to government to introduce carbon tax
Link added by John Cossham on 23/2/2008 22:41

found this for you man thought it may be of interest.

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oh rather than income tax..i got ya
sadly i sense it may be a case of both..adding taxation to curb the use of something is useless if you free other funds for the people concerned.. you believe in man made global warming?

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i hope the hole scam falls apart in full view of the public and all connected come crashing down on top of it,time will tell.

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Hi

So do I, but I hold out little hope. The evidence that it is largely made up has been readily available for a decade and in that time far more people have been led to think that man made global warming is an urgent and proven problem.

Trouble is that it is an easy source of tax. If you can make people feel guilty about doing something then they will struggle to object to being taxed on it. Hence it is an easy thing to use to replace income tax with little chance of people complaining of being taxed highly.

Reality is that the primary effect will be that any high carbon producing industry will just move to other countries which tax them less.

One reason the UK is keen on it (with it being based against 1990 figures) is that having destroyed the coal industry (and coal power generation creates a fair amount of CO2) since then we have a massive head start to make ourselves look better against other countries.

All the best

Keith
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combined with one huge world wide depression and the destroying of nations structure/government,throw in a few massive wars and diseases that take out a few 100 million and what would the world accept then under the shinning light of a promised new future,a one world government,bank,the lot which i am always banging on about,if people cant see the truth with something like global warming and accept anything god help us may or mat not happen i cant care anymore though fuck the lot of it, all the best

[Itchy]

It appears as if we are having a convergence of bad things , if China's annual growth falls below 5% per year the entire world economy is toast, as China owns so much debt that it would start spending and releasing this debt , causing a huge catastrophe economically...


a drop from 10% down to 7% means 100,000 out of work and riots and mass violence are already occuring there.
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