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PostPosted: 20:47 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: 1999 MITO cant find neutral? Reply with quote

hi all,


i have a cagiva mito and it just cant seem to find neutral(AT ALL)!


it used to be hard finding it...but now there is no neutral Mad



i know there is a star shape gear selector on 4-stroker(well on my old 140 thumper there was)? maby this is to rounded and worn? ive seen people take it out and "dremel it out" pointyer them-selfes?

if so is this start on the left or right of the engine caseing?


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PostPosted: 20:55 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

A mito's a two stroke, and most modern "proper" bikes use selector forks to select the gears.

Checked your chain tension/ lubed it recently?

It's not a selector fork problem if you can't get neutral if all the other gears select fine.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
A mito's a two stroke, and most modern "proper" bikes use selector forks to select the gears.

Checked your chain tension/ lubed it recently?

It's not a selector fork problem if you can't get neutral if all the other gears select fine.


chain is okay,


and no its not greased at all as i just put it on( and tentiond it woth 1cm of play)?


does that matter?


im only going up and down the garden with it untill its totaly ready, as in ive done a whole rebuild of the bike Laughing


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PostPosted: 21:02 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

sometimes you have to buy them seperately.
tried ebay?

(tighten your clutch cable, can you find it in neutral?)
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
sometimes you have to buy them seperately.
tried ebay?

(tighten your clutch cable, can you find it in neutral?)


sorry?


buy what seporatly?
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

neutral gears Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 21:21 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

spitfire123 wrote:

and no its not greased at all as i just put it on( and tentiond it woth 1cm of play)?


1cm is wayy too tight for most bikes, although I don't know the exact value for the mito off the top of my head usually a ball park figure is 3-4 cm for the road.

It may also need to get properly warm. Some bikes can be tricky to get into neutral until they warm up properly.
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
spitfire123 wrote:

and no its not greased at all as i just put it on( and tentiond it woth 1cm of play)?


1cm is wayy too tight for most bikes, although I don't know the exact value for the mito off the top of my head usually a ball park figure is 3-4 cm for the road.

It may also need to get properly warm. Some bikes can be tricky to get into neutral until they warm up properly.


hi,

oh okay ill loosen it a bit more then.


also the bike was more or less cold....i left it idoling for more or less 15 mins and it wasnt even on the 40 degree mark so still cold....


could this be my problem?


i think the mits running heat is around 60ish
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

spitfire123 wrote:


also the bike was more or less cold....i left it idoling for more or less 15 mins and it wasnt even on the 40 degree mark so still cold....


could this be my problem?

i think the mits running heat is around 60ish


If you leave a highly strung two stroke like that idling for ages it's a great way to foul your plug.

Idling it doesn't get it warm.

I guess it goes into neutral fine when it's not running? Have you tried selecting neutral while you're still rolling along. My GSXR used to be hard to find neutral in when it was hot when stationary. Was fine if you clicked it into neutral when it was rolling though.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
spitfire123 wrote:

and no its not greased at all as i just put it on( and tentiond it woth 1cm of play)?


1cm is wayy too tight for most bikes, although I don't know the exact value for the mito off the top of my head usually a ball park figure is 3-4 cm for the road.

It may also need to get properly warm. Some bikes can be tricky to get into neutral until they warm up properly.


considering the mitos chain is STUPIDLY long id say yeah, way too tight. up it to about 1", and hope you havnt bent your output shaft.
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:


considering the mitos chain is STUPIDLY long id say yeah, way too tight. up it to about 1", and hope you havnt bent your output shaft.


Or fucked the output shaft's bearing.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive just checked and its more along the lines of 3cm...so i should be okay Smile
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

and no when i mov ethe bike along it still dosent want to go in to netural....

the neural llight does come on but it just slips out of it and turns off...


and it comes on between 1st and neutral gear?
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last gearbox oil change?
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last owner would be a better question.

Its a 9 year old 125 2 stroke supersports bike. Its clearly been owned by a 17 year old teenager who knows bugger all about bikes. They all have. And its probably been spanked everywhere since the day it was built. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the clutch adjusted correctly? Dragging clutches can give a lot of neutral problems.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

they are a pain to get into netural at the best of times i just click mine in as i am slowing down.

once your at a standstill you will struggle lol.

oh change your gear oil 15w 50 0.8L from empty.

as for it not warming up mito's have a stupidly large radiator as there designed for hotter climates.

most owners gaffertape between 1/2 - 2/3rds up during the colder months because you will not get it up too temp otherwise.

mines taped up 2/3rds at the moment it now sits at 60 degrees which is about right for mito's.

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PostPosted: 23:14 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

kev... wrote:
they are a pain to get into netural at the best of times i just click mine in as i am slowing down.

once your at a standstill you will struggle lol.

oh change your gear oil 15w 50 0.8L from empty.

as for it not warming up mito's have a stupidly large radiator as there designed for hotter climates.

most owners gaffertape between 1/2 - 2/3rds up during the colder months because you will not get it up too temp otherwise.

mines taped up 2/3rds at the moment it now sits at 60 degrees which is about right for mito's.

hope this helps kev. Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 23:35 - 02 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

give it a few revs to find neutral m8

or get fixed Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex-RS wrote:
Last gearbox oil change?
2 days ago Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="kev..."]

oh change your gear oil 15w 50 0.8L from empty.

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hi mate,

not sure what it had in it before but the bloke at the bike shop said put morris 10w 40 in it?

is that okay or do i need the 15w 50?
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:
Is the clutch adjusted correctly? Dragging clutches can give a lot of neutral problems.



no its not....the biting point is basicly at the end of the lever.....yes the cable is slightly streached Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:
Last owner would be a better question.

Its a 9 year old 125 2 stroke supersports bike. Its clearly been owned by a 17 year old teenager who knows bugger all about bikes. They all have. And its probably been spanked everywhere since the day it was built. Laughing



this is in bvery nice condition acturly and just had a rebuild....and internaly looks very clean.


was dynod in to the 30hps



so its on form,lol
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 23:19 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

spitfire123 wrote:
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Take out and inspect your clutch if you can.
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