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Louise
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Locks.... Reply with quote

Right first off it seems strange me asking this due to working in a motorbike shop.
I see many locks, all grades, all prices.
At the moment the area I live is fairly rough but the bike it hidden with a disk lock only.
A move has come up to a bigger place but the area is seriously dodgy.
I dont want to move but its for the best ect ect.
Now, which locks would you recommend. There is no secure parking there, there are a few cams which means bugger all, and a security guard in the building (yes thats how rough) I believe that outside the main doors there are places for bikes - seen a few peds.
Im really quiet worried on the bikes secureness.
Which locks have saved your bike, if any.
No chance for ground anchors as its council
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.taylorsgardenbuildings.co.uk/store/images/d_2065.jpg
Not the best image or 'garage' for that matter, damn you google!

If you have a car parking space then this should fit more than easy enough. Its lockable and secure and will stop prying eyes. Not sure if it may take a ground anchor too?

Move, then move the lock up with you.

It does cost a fair few £ though.
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Re: Locks.... Reply with quote

Louise wrote:

No chance for ground anchors as its council


Is that 'no chance for attaching anything to the floor'? Cos when I was staying somewhere and didn't want to dig up the garage floor, I bought a 200l water butt and filled it with all the bricks, rocks and other crap that was lying around before topping it off with a load of concrete. Voila - one non-floor-damaging ground anchor (yes I'd fitted tubes for bike locks to go through) which I ended up sharing with another biker who lived there.
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Louise
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm my own garage lol looks like a good idea, but can only imagine it would be costly.
Bendy, good Idea.
IIRC there is an overground car park which a lot of residents use (Or did when I last looked)
There is an underground one, which is lockable but I dont think anyone has acces? as Nothing is parked there.
Might give that idea a try.
We have Abus locks in at £200 that are pretty short and to me I dont think it would hold up long.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ever since I saw bendy's water butt, I have never given a ground anchor a second thought.

If I was ever going to use one it would be a water butt filled with concrete, if anyone wanted those bikes, it would need a few loud minutes with a 230mm angle grinder or one way or the other, the water butt was coming with.

There is so much crap motorcycle security stuff out now thanks to a country full of thieving scumbags, a whole industry has grown up to make a quid or two out of peoples paranoia, i.e. most of it is shite.

My brother did a fair bit of research a while back, and concluded (if memory serves) that Almax chains seem to be the best.
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Louise
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have read reviews that Amex are one of the best chains to lock the bike with.
Im a worrier and just the thought of my pride and joy being nicked haunts me.
It happends everyday. I hear endless stories at work about peoples bikes being nicked and binned up the road.
Its pretty close to work that, when I drop my son off to school I only need walk 500 yards to work so there is no point in me going back to collect it.
It would be a weekend bike for now but obviously covered up.
I just know if someone wants a bike they will do anything to get it.
WIll try the water butt idea, if they say anything it just takes up a few more more feet from the bike and with what ive seen im sure a few peds that are there wouldnt mind having joined chains to the butt.

Very good idea
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keeping it out of sight is still a good idea to go in conjuction with that,
We had some professional theifs around here in a rusty old transit with a generator running in the back, (dont ask me how they got holdof these) but the jaws of life (what firefighters use to cut roofs off cars in crashes) and they wernt around stealing expensive pushbikes like the custom ones around town, and apparently was taking them around 2 seconds to chop the lock in half..
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(what firefighters use to cut roofs off cars in crashes


Due to me almost being a Firefighter (long story to why I wasnt) I had a go at the Jaws of life. and I can only say they were possible nicked - they are powerfull peices of equipment.
Professional dickheads as I call them will get anything.
This is just a 636 2003 B1H but, as we all know our bikes are our pride and joy.
I think I worrie too much (going bald) lol just kidding but you know.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i wanted peice of mind, id anchor it with the suggestion in here using a almax chain, then cover it. Laughing

Altho almax's are £100+
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

£100+

Well, since I changed indis, my Meta alarm is fubard.
Maybe now that I might be moving its a kick up the arse to get it fixed.
Almax are £100+ but Abus for the short chain is £259.99 and it looks like shit - I dont know how we would even try to sell that its unreal.

Thanks for all the replys tho people.

Waterbucket is an Idea, anda very good one at that Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 07 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for almax here, i bought a series iv 19mm thick one and i cant really see anyone bolt cropping it atall. in fact its a bloody effort to lock the bloody thing its that heavy Laughing Its so heavy you cant really take it with you without noticing it on the back of our bike. But it makes me sleep easy. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 07 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for the Almax here, if it's purely for use to lock the bike up at home, get the series 4 chain with the squire lock, just don't expect to be able to carry it on the bike easily as it's far too heavy. I've got the series 3 and it's much more manageable for day to day stuff, stick it in a little tailpack (The base kriega model is a perfect fit) and your set.

You probably already have one, but on the off chance you don't... Cover it too, doesn't matter if it's already parked under shelter or in an underground car park. It's not going to make a blind bit of difference to a proper thief, but it helps deter impulsive opportunists and drunks from having a go Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 07 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also had a pager on my alarm cos it was too far away to hear it. With the motion sensor they'd have been doing well to spend the time breaking the lock/butt without setting off the alarm, and with the pager I'd actually hear it. Not sure exactly what I'd have done, but it was a peace of mind thing.

It was also parked by the most commonly used door for the block, so there was a reasonable amount of through traffic at strange hours - I wouldn't have fancied it being in a quiet dark corner.
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 07 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

datatool alarm stops kids trying anything as soon as they hear the alarm.

almax are good quality chains with the square locks. they may be able to do you a deal by phone. very nice couple from newcastle. i spoke to them and i think they are going to america soon to expand. the guy spoke to me for 1 hour lol

i would recommend it. they have anchors aswell.
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 07 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

As it's a weekend only bike is there a friend/relative near you who has a rear garden or garage where you can store it?

As you work in a bike shop is there any chance you can store it at work if it'll be more secure than at your home?
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